A Before and After and a thank you

[BubbaJoe]

I posted a few photos of my last build and received a couple of comments on the wiring of the engine., it was positive criticism and advice. i started a new thread asking advice on how to properly wire and engine and what other builders used for wire and i received more than a few responses .each and every response gave me new insight on how to properly wire and what gauge wire to use. somewhere they are out there but i can't seem to locate my threads...anyways i just wanted to pass on a few photos of my next build and show off the engine.

just to remind you of what my last engine looked like 62 impala.. scale of the wire is off and the wire look like a big spider sitting on top

and here is my latest build.

monogram Ford T rod

it's not perfect and after taking closeups on the engine i see i need to move the wires a bit more , but in my eyes i see a vast improvement on this engine as compared to my last build.i found the proper gauge wire. i did a google search on how the wires should look and where to place them from photos of 1:1 engines. and i base coated the engine in red before painting it chevy engine red. fixing many of the mistakes i made with my last build. and its because of the feedback i received form this group and i wanted to thank each one of you for taking the time to do so...i have recently seen a few threads from new comers complaining about feedback ..lack of feedback or starting thread never to respond to any comments left by others..i want it to be known that there those of us new comers who more than appreciate the advice, comments and criticisms and that it is being taken seriously and making better modelers out of us...at least its true in my case and it is very much appreciated

[Cato]

Big improvement Joe.

A further tip is to stick to black wires, even on a hot rod. These red wires sort of 'melt' into the block color. You'll gain detail and visual interest if they're like real wires with black. Also 1:1 wires are only 7 to 8mm in diameter.

Just keep studying 1:1 engine pictures for correct finishes and details.

Edited March 1, 2015 by Cato

[Ace-Garageguy]

Looks good.

Here's you earlier thread. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=99045

I've found it's often quicker to find my own older threads if I simply go straight to Google and type in my user name, and what I recall of the heading or topic line.

I just tried it with yours... bubbajoe plug wires...and your thread came up 3rd in the list on the first page of results.

[wayne swayze]

Huge improvement on the last wiring job! But, yes, the red wires would stand out with more contrast if they were dark grey or black. Keep at it...every build leads to more experience and satisfactory results. You're definately on the right track!

[espo]

One thing to think about on the spark plug wires is how they will get around the exhaust manifolds. Your newest engine looks like a small block Chevrolet, in which case the wiring may be ok if you use headers and the exhaust headers allow the plug wires can drop down between the header tubes. If you were to use the factory cast iron headers the plug wires would have to drop down on the rear of the head and travel forward tightly against the engine block and turn up to reach the spark plugs. On the 1:1 SBC there just is not enough room to come off of the valve covers and try to pass the plug wires between the stock manifolds and the heads. The exhaust manifolds would quickly burn thru the plug wires.

[Ramfins59]

Big improvement Joe... good work. That's the beauty of this Forum... you can get good advice from a lot of people... all you have to do is ask for it.

[taaron76]

Big improvement Joe... good work. That's the beauty of this Forum... you can get good advice from a lot of people... all you have to do is ask for it.

Amen to that, Richard!

Tim

[BubbaJoe]

Big improvement Joe.

A further tip is to stick to black wires, even on a hot rod. These red wires sort of 'melt' into the block color. You'll gain detail and visual interest if they're like real wires with black. Also 1:1 wires are only 7 to 8mm in diameter.

Just keep studying 1:1 engine pictures for correct finishes and details.

as soon as i painted the engine i knew i should have used black wire, but the distributor was already finish....next time for sure

Looks good.

Here's you earlier thread. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=99045

I've found it's often quicker to find my own older threads if I simply go straight to Google and type in my user name, and what I recall of the heading or topic line.

I just tried it with yours... bubbajoe plug wires...and your thread came up 3rd in the list on the first page of results.

thanks found it right away...thanks

[BubbaJoe]

One thing to think about on the spark plug wires is how they will get around the exhaust manifolds. Your newest engine looks like a small block Chevrolet, in which case the wiring may be ok if you use headers and the exhaust headers allow the plug wires can drop down between the header tubes. If you were to use the factory cast iron headers the plug wires would have to drop down on the rear of the head and travel forward tightly against the engine block and turn up to reach the spark plugs. On the 1:1 SBC there just is not enough room to come off of the valve covers and try to pass the plug wires between the stock manifolds and the heads. The exhaust manifolds would quickly burn thru the plug wires.

i copied the wires from a google image but made sure the tubes would sit the right way on the model..the wires will feed in between them. thanks for the tips

Edited March 2, 2015 by BubbaJoe

[BubbaJoe]

thanks again for all the feedback and advice...i belong to maybe 8 or 9 other modeling forums . i'm an eclectic builder, armor, sic fi, cars, figures. pretty much anything i can find at flea markets.. out of all the forums i visit ., i find this one has a great community spirit where everyone is willing to lend a hand and help others with questions and problems. thanks again gents, i'm very happy to be a part of this place.

[espo]

Joe. When I mentioned the spark plug wires and manifolds my mind was thinking of the early small blocks. I think it was around '64 or maybe sooner that Chevrolet redesigned their exhaust manifolds. In their later design the plug wires do in fact come over the valve covers and the exhaust manifolds make a 90 degree downward bend and then exist to the rear. I believe this started with '64 Chevelles, but that's only because that's the when I first saw this on the 1:1 cars. Your engine looks great, maybe a very light thinned flat black paint on the wires ? That may make them standout a little more if you like.

[BubbaJoe]

Joe. When I mentioned the spark plug wires and manifolds my mind was thinking of the early small blocks. I think it was around '64 or maybe sooner that Chevrolet redesigned their exhaust manifolds. In their later design the plug wires do in fact come over the valve covers and the exhaust manifolds make a 90 degree downward bend and then exist to the rear. I believe this started with '64 Chevelles, but that's only because that's the when I first saw this on the 1:1 cars. Your engine looks great, maybe a very light thinned flat black paint on the wires ? That may make them standout a little more if you like.

thanks david....i think i'll let sleeping wires lay.makes me a bit nervous thinking about trying to paint the wires now . hindsight is 20/20 and wish i had used black wire...but you live and learn . i appreciate the info on the engines.

[Tom Geiger]

I posted a few photos of my last build and received a couple of comments on the wiring of the engine., it was positive criticism and advice. i started a new thread asking advice on how to properly wire and engine and what other builders used for wire and i received more than a few responses .each and every response gave me new insight on how to properly wire and what gauge wire to use. somewhere they are out there but i can't seem to locate my threads...anyways i just wanted to pass on a few photos of my next build and show off the engine.

just to remind you of what my last engine looked like 62 impala.. scale of the wire is off and the wire look like a big spider sitting on top

and here is my latest build.

monogram Ford T rod

I saw the post suggesting that you paint the wires black. I agree it's a done deal, but you could color them with a black Sharpie. I had a build where I had run out of black and somehow had some white wire. I recolored it with Sharpie and it worked fine.

A suggestion... on your engine photos above.. the top one shows the starter and solenoid at the lower left, that should be painted black. Bottom photo has the oil filter, which could be painted a number of different colors, from black to orange (Fram) to white

[BubbaJoe]

thanks tom...i looked over the engine and seriously thought about attemtping to black out the wires but think i'll let them stand...SHOOT, thanks for pointing out the mistakes for me, i appreciate the help

[vintagercr]

That is great improvement. I have to agree, that I would have used a darker colour. Well done!