Harry P. Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Whatever Harry. I HAVE SEEN IT!! No you haven't. Less than a foot between vehicles? Even the Blue Angels can't fly in that tight a formation. And if you have seen it... where exactly were you when you "saw it?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 No you haven't. Less than a foot between vehicles? Even the Blue Angels can't fly in that tight a formation. And if you have seen it... where exactly were you when you "saw it?" Being that close just the air would cause the car to lose control by losing down force and aerodynamics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Being that close just the air would cause the car to lose control by losing down force and aerodynamics. Even trained stunt drivers would have a hard time keeping less than 12 inches between them at highway speeds. In the real world, it just doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petetrucker07 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 The way I see it. If a truck really is that close, he didn't see the car get in front of him. Which means the car cut him off. I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, I don't know what type of truck it was in question. Out here, usually if that happens, in traffic and the truck driver knows the car is there, they're usually container haulers, or as I like to call them, Harbor Rats. In the high traffic L.A. area, the Harbor Rats are bad. I know time is money, but it's not that important. They are flying down the road or goin too slow in the wrong lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 No way will a truck be within 12 inches of the vehicle ahead of it. No way. Not under any conditions, not under any circumstance other than imminent collision, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldawg142 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) ......... Edited May 11, 2018 by dieseldawg142 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Even trained stunt drivers would have a hard time keeping less than 12 inches between them at highway speeds. In the real world, it just doesn't happen. I do agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 So the punchline here is traffic was stopped right? I mean COE or not, 12-24" is so close that even without a "conventional" hood you would cease to see the vehicle in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I used to. Not anymore, and especially not after seeing that. There used to be a day that truck drivers were the most courteous drivers on the road not anymore, most are as bad if not worse than most drivers. It is nothing short of a miracle no one was killed. Hmmmm, no respect for truckers?? Remember that when you sit down to eat tonight, the food you're putting in your mouth, the plate you're eating it off of, the fork you are using to eat with, and the table and chair you and your dinner are sitting on are all there because of one thing, THE AMERICAN TRUCKER!! I've been doing this thankless job for 17 years, and just get SO infuriated at people that have the attitude that little magical fairies put all their goods on a shelf for them. I'm a proud professional but will admit there are some out here that do not look at the job the way I do, the steering wheel holder, and all that were involved in this accident are dumb steering wheel holders that are giving the proud professional like me bad names. Well, off my soapbox now, I have groceries to deliver so more disrespectful people like you can eat! That right is what really bothers me about morons like this on the road. It gives those of us who are still true trucker drivers a bad name. The truck driver is a dying breed. The steering wheel holder is spreading almost like a wild fire. This accident was caused by and involved steering wheel holders. Real truck drivers would've communicated there was a serious issue or, like what I would've done, parked the truck till the conditions were safer. This is a prime example of poor judgment. I'm with you there brother! I was always taught "No load is worth your life or anyone else" and I still hold true to that to this day. I would have parked until conditions improved as well and crept along slowly until I did find safe haven, but super truckers think otherwise. I know firsthand how it is to get "the call", I lost my brother in a crash in 1992. His rig went of the road and crashed into a bridge abutment due to a sudden heart attack. I started driving 6 years later, and keep safety of myself and others my #1 priority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Whenever I drive downstate to visit my daughters (one lives in Champaign, the other in Urbana, Illinois–about 3 hours south of me on I-57), I obviously have interactions with a ton of truckers on the road. And from what I have seen in person, over many, many trips to Champaign-Urbana and back over the years, truckers are the best drivers on the road. They obey the speed limit, they always signal when changing lanes, etc. Are there bad apples in the bunch? Of course. There are bad people in every profession. But based on my personal experience, truckers are very professional and courteous on the road. Thank you Harry, at least someone appreciates us in the general public! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Thank you Harry, at least someone appreciates us in the general public! My Brother is a heavy haul driver now and in 40 years never an accident. He is hauling tanks and rocket launchers now. i have been with him before the government hauling. So i know what you truck drivers do every day. i would not want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petetrucker07 Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's rough out here some days. To quote PigPen from Convoy, "these ol' highways sure wear the souls off of cow pokes". I've been in bad weather before, nothing like the accident I started the thread over, but still pretty bad. I was dead heading, running empty, from Flagstaff, Az to Kingman, Az. Not far, but that winter the south west had a pretty rough one. It snowin hard, roads were icy, I was empty with super singles and no chains. MI D you in a truck that only weighed 28000 pounds. I ran that 3 hour drive in 7 hours. I never got over 25 mph. I couldn't stop to let the weather clear up cause those who know, there isn't much out there for a guy driving a day cab. There big strapers haulin "the mail" out there in the hammer lane. Luckily there were no accidents that night, but the "ingredients" were there for disaster. I just stayed 3 truck lengths away from the truck in front of me and made it safely to the motel. That same year, I was loaded, heading to Las Vegas from Phoenix. I was on Hwy 95. It's a 2 lane highway that runs through the middle of no where. I got to Needles Ca when the snow started falling. Got about 45 minutes further down the road and it started coming down hard. This was the same storm that gave Las Vegas record snow fall. I got an hour and a half from Vegas and the highway was stopped. The snow let up enough to allow me to look between the trucks, up the road a little bit. All I could see was the broad side of Swift trailer. He didn't wreck it, but he spun out lost control and managed to keep up right without hitting anything or anybody. But he did shut the highway down in both directions. I sat in that spot for 12 hours before highway patrol knocked on my door, because I managed to get some sleep in that cab, to tell me they were escorting traffic. I then sat at the Goldstrike Hotel in Jean, NV for 3 more days because southbound 15 was unpassable. Accidents, ice and the fact it was still snowin in the higher elevation, kept me from going home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 There's no way a truck in traffic will be less than a foot off someone's bumper. That doesn't happen. You need to hang out on 94 around Detroit . It's been reported they carry and bump draft down that stretch . I stay away from there during rush hour. I was doing the speed limit while delivering for work and was passed by a school bus. The driver gave me a bad look as she went around me in the shop pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 The biggest problem we have today is WE are all in a big hurry over nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's rough out here some days. To quote PigPen from Convoy, "these ol' highways sure wear the souls off of cow pokes". I've been in bad weather before, nothing like the accident I started the thread over, but still pretty bad. I was dead heading, running empty, from Flagstaff, Az to Kingman, Az. Not far, but that winter the south west had a pretty rough one. It snowin hard, roads were icy, I was empty with super singles and no chains. MI D you in a truck that only weighed 28000 pounds. I ran that 3 hour drive in 7 hours. I never got over 25 mph. I couldn't stop to let the weather clear up cause those who know, there isn't much out there for a guy driving a day cab. There big strapers haulin "the mail" out there in the hammer lane. Luckily there were no accidents that night, but the "ingredients" were there for disaster. I just stayed 3 truck lengths away from the truck in front of me and made it safely to the motel. That same year, I was loaded, heading to Las Vegas from Phoenix. I was on Hwy 95. It's a 2 lane highway that runs through the middle of no where. I got to Needles Ca when the snow started falling. Got about 45 minutes further down the road and it started coming down hard. This was the same storm that gave Las Vegas record snow fall. I got an hour and a half from Vegas and the highway was stopped. The snow let up enough to allow me to look between the trucks, up the road a little bit. All I could see was the broad side of Swift trailer. He didn't wreck it, but he spun out lost control and managed to keep up right without hitting anything or anybody. But he did shut the highway down in both directions. I sat in that spot for 12 hours before highway patrol knocked on my door, because I managed to get some sleep in that cab, to tell me they were escorting traffic. I then sat at the Goldstrike Hotel in Jean, NV for 3 more days because southbound 15 was unpassable. Accidents, ice and the fact it was still snowin in the higher elevation, kept me from going home. My brother does not like going west in certain times of the year and has been stuck there. i do know he was stuck in Baltimore this year for a few days due to the weather... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) I went to the University of Wyoming and had to drive I-80 to get there. There are some nasty hills outside of Laramie, which, when combined with typical Wyoming winter weather, virtually ensure that things like this will happen. It got to the point where I used to dread coming back from Christmas break. One year, my poor old Mustang made it to the top of the highest hill and then wouldn't do anything but fishtail. I had to pull it off to the side, hitchhike into town, then get a wrecker to tow it back to my place. On the way out to get my car, I was amazed at how many semis had jackknifed or plowed into another truck because of the conditions. I have no doubt that the local wrecker services make a mint during winter up there. Wyoming is a beautiful state...in the summer. Edited April 26, 2015 by Monty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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