65slotcar Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 anyone have a suggestion of what model kit that would have a good chevy engine to put in a chaparral race car. big block and small block weber carbs. or an aftermarket company that makes a weber carb intake manifold for big and small block chevy. thanks Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Motor Racing Replica News (Issue 4) did a nice article on the 2C and 2D. They used the 327 block from Monogram's Rampage Camaro but this was written in 1991(!). There has to be a better choice now. For the 427 I would suggest any of Revell's 70's Corvette kits (Owens Corning, Stars & Strips etc). Not sure about the 327, I would have to do some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Monogram chaparrals are 1/24, and without question, the best 1/24 Chevy V8 engines are in the Accurate Miniatures McLarens and Corvette GS kits. The big-block in the McLaren is fuel injected, and the smallblock in the Corvette kits has SIDE-draft Weber DCO-series carbs. Neither of these induction systems is right for the Weber IDA DOWN-draft carbs you probably want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65slotcar Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 YES , I GOT A REPLY !! thanks . now the hard part. 4 weber intake manifold. i will look up those kits. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Monogram chaparrals are 1/24, and without question, the best 1/24 Chevy V8 engines are in the Accurate Miniatures McLarens and Corvette GS kits. The big-block in the McLaren is fuel injected, and the smallblock in the Corvette kits has SIDE-draft Weber DCO-series carbs. Neither of these induction systems is right for the Weber IDA DOWN-draft carbs you probably want. Bill the Owens Corninig kit is marked 1/24 scale and the Stars & Stripes Corvette kit is marked 1/25 scale. I just compared the bodies and they are exactly the same. So I am not real sure which scale they are. Regardless your right , the AM kits are a better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65slotcar Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 yes, i have both of the accurate miniatures mclaren and corvette. for a chaparral it would be worth it to rob engine. need to find the proper intake manifold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You can find an intake manifold and 4 Weber IDA's in the old AMT 63 Corvette kits, it's the only one I know of...oh...and it's for Big Block but as it's for a 1:25 scale kit it might fit a 1:24 Small Block, or widen it slighlty to fit the 1:24 Big Block. Otherwise Harold Bradford at Historic Racing Miniatures has very nice Weber IDA's in his resin Cobra FIA engine kits and F40 engine and suspension kits and he also sell the Weber IDA carbs and manifold separate...they are all for Ford Small Block but the carbs are usable. The manifold and carb kit costs around $10-11 at Strada Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You can find an intake manifold and 4 Weber IDA's in the old AMT 63 Corvette kits, it's the only one I know of...oh...and it's for Big Block but as it's for a 1:25 scale kit it might fit a 1:24 Small Block, or widen it slighlty to fit the 1:24 Big Block. Otherwise Harold Bradford at Historic Racing Miniatures has very nice Weber IDA's in his resin Cobra FIA engine kits and F40 engine and suspension kits and he also sell the Weber IDA carbs and manifold separate...they are all for Ford Small Block but the carbs are usable. The manifold and carb kit costs around $10-11 at Strada Sports Could you possibly post a picture of the manifold and Webers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 ... the Owens Corninig kit is marked 1/24 scale and the Stars & Stripes Corvette kit is marked 1/25 scale. I just compared the bodies and they are exactly the same. Now that IS an interesting piece if information. Hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydar Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What Chaparral kit are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 There is/was an ARII Chaparral 2C kit that had the Weber set up in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 There is/was an ARII Chaparral 2C kit that had the Weber set up in it. No the ARII kit did not includes those parts only the LS version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Could you possibly post a picture of the manifold and Webers? Wich ones...the AMT or HRM?? I don't have any pics of either of them but someone else might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Wich ones...the AMT or HRM?? I don't have any pics of either of them but someone else might have. The 63 Corvette items you mentioned from AMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65slotcar Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 What Chaparral kit are you using? i'm putting an engine in the LS brand chaparral 2c and have the nice webers. just trying to find a proper 4 weber intake manifold. for this model and other chaparral projects that don't have engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don't have a picture of the actual parts but here is a pic of the instructions from the Drastic Plastic Fotki Albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65slotcar Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 that looks perfect!! this is from the old amt 1963 corvette?? and thanks for the post. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Ed Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Bill Your only problem with the 427 from the AMT Vette is it's 1/25 scale and all the Chaparral Kits I'm aware of that would use a Big Block are 1/24 scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I don't have much Chaparral reference but I thought the manifold looked more like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Bill Your only problem with the 427 from the AMT Vette is it's 1/25 scale and all the Chaparral Kits I'm aware of that would use a Big Block are 1/24 scale. I mentioned that in my first post, but there's not much difference between 1:24 and 1:25 and it must be possible to modify the 1:25 part to fit a 1:24 scale engine, maybe make it a bit longer and wider and you must be close...so it can't be that big a problem. afx: I have no idea what type of Weber intake manifold the Chaparral cars had, I just mentioned the ones I know are available wich isn't much, but it can't be that hard to modify the intake to resemble the one in your pic or maybe even scratch build one with some Evergreen plastic stock, the shapes looks easy enough to copy. Bill: Yes it's from the AMT 63 Corvette and it's in all issues after what I know...and even the 63 Corvette Convertible has this set up. Edited February 19, 2014 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Several carburetor induction systems show up on Chaparrals, so check your references. The cast alloy unit represented in the Corvette kit is probably the least likely to have been run in anger. Even a 6X1 setup early on... Images lifted from open internet sources, under the "fair use" definition in copyright law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65slotcar Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 great pics, thanks for posting. i have only one chaparral book and the engine pics are not very good and detailed. plan on getting a few more chaparral books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just a heads up. I have the AM Grand Sport kit and I tried using the Webers on the Fujimi Cobra. Both are 1/25, but the Webers from the AM kit are WAY too big. Historic Racing miniatures make the nicest Webers around, but the stacks are molded in and the carbs are a little on the small side, so I am havign a hard time finding turned stacks to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Just a heads up. I have the AM Grand Sport kit and I tried using the Webers on the Fujimi Cobra. Both are 1/25, but the Webers from the AM kit are WAY too big. My AM GS kits are labeled 1/24. Another problem is that the AM kit induction systems run DCO series SIDE-draft carbs, and the Chaparral and Cobras ran IDA series DOWN-draft. You can't just turn any old Weber on its side...the float bowls have to be oriented correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 My AM GS kits are labeled 1/24. Another problem is that the AM kit induction systems run DCO series SIDE-draft carbs, and the Chaparral and Cobras ran IDA series DOWN-draft. You can't just turn any old Weber on its side...the float bowls have to be oriented correctly. I meant 1/24, thanks for catching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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