stulee11 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 hi all i am in need of some help . i am doing a 1.24th car kit and i know how to do the ignition wires . but i dont know how to do the fuel lines, brake lines and stuff . so could some one please give me a list of the size wires i will need to do this as i really have no clue . thanks stu merry christmas to all and to all a happy new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Moparman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Take a piece of telephone wire and strip the insulation off of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Take a piece of telephone wire and strip the insulation off of it. what and use the insulation or the inner wire ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Moparman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The inner wire is perfect for fuel lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 The inner wire is perfect for fuel lines. thanks mate . do the fuel lines run along the side of the chassis ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Moparman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 From the carbs to the fuel pump, fuel pump along chassis to fuel tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 From the carbs to the fuel pump, fuel pump along chassis to fuel tank. thanks mate thats hepled out loads !! happy holidays and new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) From the carbs to the fuel pump, fuel pump along chassis to fuel tank. Only if it's electric, just about all classic cars had a mechanical one located on the side of the block. Edited December 20, 2011 by Andy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Only if it's electric, just about all classic cars had a mechanical one located on the side of the block. how do they run if the pumps on the side of the block ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 how do they run if the pumps on the side of the block ? Mechanical pumps are powered by the engine itself, usually via pushrod, and pull the fuel from the tank to the engine. For the most part, carbureted engines used mechanical fuel pumps; electric pumps were mainly used for fuel injected cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 do the fuel lines run along the side of the chassis ?? Stu - Basically, yes....but each vehicle you build in scale can vary as far as cable & fuel line routing. My recommendation is searching Ebay and Google for images for the specific vehicle you're doing; you will find a lot of good reference material, and in no time have your scale plumbing all sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Stu - Basically, yes....but each vehicle you build in scale can vary as far as cable & fuel line routing. My recommendation is searching Ebay and Google for images for the specific vehicle you're doing; you will find a lot of good reference material, and in no time have your scale plumbing all sorted. thanks mate i will have a look and see what i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whale392 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Keep this in mind (with regards to scale of wire), .010" is roughly 1/4" in 1/24th-1/25th scale. Most fuel lines are between 1/4" to 3/8", so .016" wire (28 gauge) will do nicely. You can find it at most places that sell jewelry-craft pieces (Hobby Lobby and Micheals here in the states for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) how do they run if the pumps on the side of the block ? The camshafts had an extra camshaft lobe that would push another pushrod which pumped fuel from the fuel pump. EDIT-Tree'd... Edited December 20, 2011 by Andy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 The camshafts had an extra camshaft lobe that would push another pushrod which pumped fuel from the fuel pump. EDIT-Tree'd... i should of made myself clearer i ment how do the fuel lines run with that type of pump sorry lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 For fuel and brake lines I usually use the wire from the twist ties that come in the boxes with the trash bags. I just strip off the outer plastic or paper coating and the steel wire inside is the perfect diameter and color for both applications. Hope this helps. David G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 i should of made myself clearer i ment how do the fuel lines run with that type of pump sorry lol Here's a picture of one. I believe that the tube on the left is the inlet, and the one on the right goes to the carburetor. Unfortunately, no kits that I know of have the tubes molded in, so you'd have to put them on. Oh, and the inlet comes straight from the fuel tank. Some people put the fuel filter between the tank and the pump, some put the filter between the pump and the carburetor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Here's a picture of one. I believe that the tube on the left is the inlet, and the one on the right goes to the carburetor. Unfortunately, no kits that I know of have the tubes molded in, so you'd have to put them on. Oh, and the inlet comes straight from the fuel tank. Some people put the fuel filter between the tank and the pump, some put the filter between the pump and the carburetor. thanks mate thats a massive help . hope you have a happy christams and new year mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 i dont know if anyone has done it or knows how to do it . but when i wire up the battery i know the "negative" goes to the chassis but does the "possitive" got to the "starter then altinator" or "altinator the starter" ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Thanks, you too. I believe the positive goes directly to the starter solenoid. The alternator, sorry, can't help you on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The battery cable wiring will vary. Generally speaking, though, the negative will usually go to either the frame, body, or engine block, sometimes with a separate cable(s) connecting the frame, engine, and body for a solid grounding system. For the positive, they will usually go to the lug on either the starter itself or on the solenoid. Some vehicles have the positive cable connected to a fender/firewall mounted relay (mainly Ford) then a second cable to the starter from the relay. Also, some late model GM products use two separate positive cables, with a double connector at the battery. One will go the starter as normal, the other is routed to the power distribution/fuse box. Not to confuse the issue, but some older (pre mid '50s) vehicles used a positive ground. They are wired more or less the same, only reversed. Positive ground is common on '56 and older Fords, with the '56 Ford the only case I know of a 12 volt positive ground, as most others are 6 volt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It would really help to know which specific vehicle you are detailing, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stulee11 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 thanks all for the advise its really helping me out loads . The car i am doing is . "69 nova ss" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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