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Not sure how you reached the conclusion that this forum is filled with unscrupulous modelers but if that is your opinion then there is no need for you to seek ours.

McLaren confirms Button as Alonso's Monaco replacement play Fernando Alonso is set to follow in some iconic footsteps as he makes the switch from F1 to the Indy 500, but could he actually win it? (2:35) 5:58 AM ET Laurence EdmondsonF1 Editor Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment SAKHIR, Bahrain -- McLaren has confirmed Jenson Button will return to Formula One at the Monaco Grand Prix in May, replacing Fernando Alonso who will race at the Indy 500 the same weekend. Alonso's shock news was announced on Wednesday, but at the time the team said it had not secured a replacement. Button was the obvious choice, not just because he raced for the team last year, but he is also its reserve driver. "I'm thrilled to be making a one-off return to Formula One racing, and I couldn't think of a better place to make that return than my adopted home Grand Prix: Monaco," he said. "I've won the race before, in 2009, and it's one of my all-time favourite racetracks. It's a tricky street circuit on which a good driver can really make a difference - and, although the McLaren-Honda MCL32 hasn't begun the season well, I think it may be more suited to Monaco than to the faster circuits that Fernando [Alonso] and Stoffel [Vandoorne] have raced it on so far this season. "OK, I realise we won't have a realistic chance of repeating my 2009 victory, but I think we'll have a opportunity to score world championship points, which will be very valuable to the team in terms of constructors' rankings. "As for Fernando, I hope he not only fares well at Indy but enjoys it too. It'll be a great experience for him. He's an excellent driver, as we all know, and he's very experienced, so, although super-speedway driving techniques will be all-new to him, I expect him to get to grips with it all pretty quickly. And on Sunday evening, after the Monaco Grand Prix, I'll sit down and watch him do his stuff on TV. I'm looking forward to that too. "But most of all I'm looking forward to pitting myself against the unique racing challenge that is the Monaco Grand Prix. I'll drive the MCL32 around Monaco in the McLaren sim beforehand, and I reckon I'll be ready for the race after doing that. I'm supremely fit, having done a lot of triathlon training recently, so I have no worries on that score. And it'll be nice to say 'hi' to all my old Formula One mates too, and hopefully to give the fans something to cheer about." McLaren's racing director Eric Boullier added: "I was truly delighted when Jenson accepted our suggestion that he race at Monaco instead of Fernando, and I know I speak on behalf of everyone at McLaren-Honda, and all our sponsor-partners and fans too, when I say that it's great news for Jenson, for McLaren, for Honda, for our sponsor-partners, for Monaco, and for the sport of Formula One. "Jenson is a class act. He's a superb driver -- fast, smooth and precise -- and he won't have lost any of his competitive edge over the past few months. After all, he's missed only a handful of Grands Prix since his last outing in Abu Dhabi in late November last year, and he's as fit as a fiddle. Also, he's always been good at Monaco. He'll do a great job for us, I'm sure of that. "Fernando will be back at the wheel of the McLaren-Honda MCL32 in Montreal, and I hope he'll have some great stories to bring back to us from Indianapolis. You couldn't get two more different racetracks than Monaco and Indy -- one of them a twisty and bumpy street course and the other a mega-high-speed banked super-speedway bowl -- but that's the beauty of our sport. It also reflects the technical versatility of McLaren and Honda. And it underlines the fact that we're racers, above everything else."

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Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2017, 5:00 PM EDT Getty ImagesWith the passing of Dan Rooney, a Pro Football Hall of Famer who helped his father make the Steelers into a perennial contender and then carried the tradition forward for nearly three decades after the team founder’s passing, the NFL has lost one of its most important figures of the past half-century. Dan Rooney first became officially involved with the Steelers in 1955, after graduating from Duquesne University. By 1960, he was involved in management of the team. By 1969, he assumed leadership of the organization. Not coincidentally, in that same year the Steelers hired coach Chuck Noll, one of only three head coaches the franchise has employed since then. It would prove to be one of the best hires made in any American sport. The team that had perennially struggled quickly reversed its fortunes, with the 1972 Immaculate Reception sparking an unprecedented run of excellence, with four Super Bowl wins in six years and a slew of Hall of Fame players who helped Pittsburgh stay true to its blue-collar persona even as the steel mills that provided so many of their jobs shut down. Rooney was firmly a member of the old guard, which gradually has seen its influence yield to a generation of owners who made millions (or billions) in other lines of work before buying NFL franchises. The Steelers have endured as a thriving, relevant franchise without pricing their most loyal fans out of Heinz Field, a dynamic that often frustrated owners who believe that every team should charge every last dollar that the market will bear. Still, Rooney remained influential and vital to the league, championing the promotion of Roger Goodell to Commissioner in 2006 before stepping away from the team to become the U.S. ambassador to Ireland. Even after Dan Rooney accepted the assignment from President Barack Obama, Dan Rooney remained synonymous with the Steelers, and the Steelers remain synonymous with Pittsburgh. But for his efforts during one of the best decades any sports franchise ever has had, that may not be the case.

Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2017, 5:20 PM EDT Getty ImagesDespite owning the Steelers, Dan Rooney cared about the NFL nearly as much, if not as much, as he cared about his team. Because of that, Dan Rooney became a key figure in the growth of the league into the dominant sport on the American landscape. “Few men have contributed as much to the National Football League as Dan Rooney,” NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement issued Thursday, following the passing of Mr. Rooney. “A member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he was one of the finest men in the history of our game and it was a privilege to work alongside him for so many years. Dan’s dedication to the game, to the players and coaches, to his beloved Pittsburgh, and to Steelers fans everywhere was unparalleled. “He was a role model and trusted colleague to commissioners since Bert Bell, countless NFL owners, and so many others in and out of the NFL. A voice of reason on a wide range of topics, including diversity and labor relations, Dan always had the league’s best interests at heart. For my part, Dan’s friendship and counsel were both inspiring and irreplaceable. My heart goes out to Patricia, Art, and the entire Rooney family on the loss of this extraordinary man.” An extraordinary man from an extraordinary family that has owned the Steelers from the moment the franchise was founded, and that by all appearances will continue to own the team for many more years and decades into the future.

Posted by Josh Alper on April 13, 2017, 5:23 PM EDT Getty ImagesThe death of Steelers chairman Dan Rooney has spurred responses from all corners of the NFL on Thursday afternoon, including one from Panthers owner Jerry Richardson. “My heart is heavy today as the passing of Dan Rooney leaves a void that can never be filled,” Richardson said in a statement. “No one in the National Football League provided me more friendship and counsel over the past 25 years than Dan, and I will always cherish our time together. Dan was a cornerstone of the National Football League and leaves a lasting mark on the game he loved both on and off the field. His lifetime of service to his team, the NFL, his city and his country earned Dan the respect and love of so many. He will be dearly missed. Rosalind and I send our thoughts and prayers to the Rooney family and the entire Steelers organization.” Many current and former Steelers players shared their condolences and other thoughts on social media. Wide receiver Antonio Brown was among them, writing that he will miss Rooney and that his No. 84 “will represent the 84 years you spent on this earth making an impact on the lives of others.” Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher called Rooney his mentor and thanked him for “guidance and wisdom” during their time together. Pro Football Hall of Fame president and CEO David Baker also issued a statement announcing that the flag at the Pro Football Hall of Fame “will fly at half-staff in honor of one of the greatest men to ever serve this game” on Friday. Rooney was elected to the Hall in 2000.

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 13, 2017, 6:22 PM EDT Getty ImagesFormer President Barack Obama issued a statement praising Dan Rooney today, hours after the team announced that its chairman had died at the age of 84. “Dan Rooney was a great friend of mine, but more importantly, he was a great friend to the people of Pittsburgh, a model citizen, and someone who represented the United States with dignity and grace on the world stage,” Obama said. “I knew he’d do a wonderful job when I named him as our United States Ambassador to Ireland, but naturally, he surpassed my high expectations, and I know the people of Ireland think fondly of him today. And I know the people of Pittsburgh, who loved him not only for the Super Bowl championships he brought as the owner of the Steelers, but for his generosity of spirit, mourn his passing today. Michelle and I offer our condolences to the Rooney family, some of the most gracious and thoughtful people we know — even as we celebrate the life of Dan Rooney: a championship-caliber good man.” Rooney was a supporter of Obama’s during the 2008 presidential campaign, and served under Obama as U.S. Ambassador to Ireland for three years.

Posted by Mike Florio on April 13, 2017, 8:19 PM EDT Getty ImagesSteelers chairman and Ambassador Dan Rooney died on Thursday at the age of 84. His son, Art II, honored him with a simple but strong statement released through the team. “It is a sad day for my family and me,” Art Rooney II said. “My father meant so much to all of us, and so much to so many past and present members of the Steelers organization. He gave his heart and soul to the Steelers, the National Football League and the City of Pittsburgh. We will celebrate his life and the many ways he left us in a better place.” Few figures in the NFL or elsewhere can or will evoke the volume of positive memories and messages that Ambassador Rooney has generated upon his passing. Statements are flowing from every corner of the NFL and beyond, and the process surely will continue in the coming days.

That confirms my gut feeling that the Gunze kit is a bit too wide (approx. 3 scale inches) but is otherwise accurate for 1:25 scale.

Using these dimensions we come up with: wheel base width length 289 2286 1550 3848 427 2286 1676 3962 Coupe 2286 1676 4206 1:25 289 91 62 154 427 91 67 158 Coupe 91 67 168 Gunze 90 70 167

Not sure where you guys are but I am convinced the Gunze kit is 1:25 scale.

Here is the Revellogram 427 comparison: Gunze: SMS:

I was born a Steeler's fan and I will die one too. I grew up watching the games with my father and grandfather. The Rooney's are the best owners in sports IMHO. He will be missed.

The Sunny is a modified AMT kit. No relation to the Gunze. Sunny: Gunze:

Call Pete up Rex and get him to send you the original drawing so we can sort this out!

Yes the Coupes were built on modified 289 chassis. http://www.carbuildindex.com/21398/1964-shelby-cobra-daytona-coupe-csx2287-makes-history-last-week/

That's the perfect comparison Randy! The 289 next to the Coupe next to the FIA (427 body style)

Comparison of the SMS kit. 1:24 wheel base width length 289 95 65 160 427 95 70 165 Coupe 95 72 173 SMS 97 70 175

Nice work Mark.

I didn't measure the Revellogram 427 but I did compare it to the Gunze and the 427's wheel base is much longer.

Great work as usual John. Who offers the sheet of bolt heads shown?

Hard to find a roadster and a coupe in the same photo.

Yes the kit is marked 1/24 scale but here are the 1/24 scale dimension. 1:24wheel basewidthlength28995651604279570165Coupe9572173Gunze9070167

As hard as it is to believe I think the '97 SAAC Register is incorrect with its Daytona dimensions. Its shows the overall length and width of the Coupe the same as the 289 and that just can't be right. Checked some other website and here is what I believe are the correct dimensions. wheel base width length 289 2286 1550 3848 427 2286 1676 3962 Coupe 2286 1720 4150 Wiki/others Coupe 2286 1550 3848 SAAC If I convert these to 1:25 scale here is how they compare to the noted kits: 1:25 289 91 62 154 AMT 90 61 152 427 91 67 158 Sunny 90 67 152 Coupe 91 69 166 Gunze 90 70 167 Is it possibly the Gunze kit is really 1:25 scale?? Here are the bodies with the wheel bases lined up.