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Question about 70 Roadrunner
drksd4848 replied to Nova-ss's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Wow... there's some serious detail in there... beautiful. Did that Revell kit come with Road Runner decals? I know the Johan '69 (and I believe '70) Road Runner kit had them hard-molded into the body. Although the Johan Superbird did not... -
Question about 70 Roadrunner
drksd4848 replied to Nova-ss's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
I have a glue bomb of that Monogram GTX kit that I converted into a Road Runner... using Fred Cady decals! The decals never looked quite right though. I'll have to dig it out at some point and post a pic. To answer the OPs question, If I had a choice between the Johan kit and the Revell kit (and $500 to through out the window), I'd go with the Johan. Better yet, buy the Revell, then put $470 back in your pocket. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Wait... Your talking about the 1987 release, right? I thought the 71 RR was still an MPC kit. Or did Ertl own MPC? -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Apparently I have too much time on my hands: I found a semi-sort of interesting tidbit on the Round2 blog about some of the moldings they used for the Daisy Duke Road Runner. Not back dated to the correct '73-'74 specs? Some parts were altered? What parts? For what kits? The 71 reissue? Hmm... lets see what else it says. Chassis pan? With dual exhaust detail? Why would THAT have been modified? For the 75/76? For the Volare? Well... why was the instrument panel changed? What instrument panel did they use previously? What tooling did they use to make the original kit? What kit/tooling did they pillage to change it back to the original? Was it the '72? More questions than answers... -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Wow... Part of me wants to cheer, part of me wants to vomit. If they tool up the rear bumper, lets hope they tool up the proper 72 grill as well. And please, for the LOVE OF GOD, let there be the option to build it stock. Apparently, FF8 doesn't have the rights to use the Road Runner name plate/decals. BTW, that Monogram Satellite kit was a really nice kit. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Hmmm... - Those were the exact same interior panels that my parents real 1:1 '72 RR had - although they had black bench seats, but the door panels were the same as the 1/25 model. I thought those door panels were the only ones that came with the '72 RR. I know the '71 had different options. Yes. Absolutely. Those were the only kits ever produced of a '72 Road Runner. It's the best we will get. The imperfections wouldn't bother me as long as it has the standard RR 'C scoop call-out' hood, the '72 grill insert, and those '72 tail lights. Now, if Monogram decided to reissue their '71 Satellite kit, and retool it as a '72, then I'd take that over an MPC in a second. The detail on the 1/24 Monogram is far better than detail on the 1/25 MPC. But there is absolutely NO WAY that is going to happen. Monogram never had the tooling for the '72 parts in the first place. If anybody wants a model kit of a '72 Road Runner - as I do - Round2 is the only one who could do it. If they don't reissue it, it probably aint gonna happen. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
20 grand?! Holy bankruptcy Batman! -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Ace: Look, I'll admit, I know very little about the plastic model biz. All I have is a rudimentary understanding of business in general. So, I might very well be talking out of my butt here; feel free to tell me I'm off my head. My wife does it to me all the time. But, I just can't imagine that it would take such a huge investment to reissue a kit that they've already produced 90% of the parts for. The under carriage, engine parts, interior parts, windshield, etc are already in use in a number of kits: MPC 74 Road Runner. AMT 74 GTX, MPC Daisy Duke Plymouth, the 71 Charger (can't remember if it's AMT or MPC). Would it really cost 10 to 15 grand to produce a rear/front bumper, hood, and body, plus grill molding and clear plastic lenses? Resin makers have already been producing them. I know resin and injection plastic are totally different beasts, but if a guy in his basement can do it... Who cares if it's like the annual or not. Few people would know the difference. Pillage and plunder the parts from the other kits, then re-issue it the cheapest way possible. Just get it out there. Even if it's not exact, people will buy it. It's not a question. Again, they've done this in the past for other kits that were rarer. Why won't they do it for the 71/72 RRs? -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Yeah, Ace. I really think someone who calls the shots at Round2 just doesn't like that particular style of Road Runner. Seriously, there's no good reason not to reissue it. If the tooling is damaged, you can't tell me that it can't be fixed. They've done it for other kits! I have, on my desk, a resin cast of the '72 RR body, hood, front, and rear bumpers. (I also had a beautiful chrome plated ModelHaus rear 72 bumper but it was lost at some point). Not that I know a lot about this stuff, but from my perspective, if A GUY in his BASEMENT could make a RESIN CAST of that kit, there is absolutely no reason for not reissuing it other than the fact that someone at Round2 doesn't like that particular car/model/kit. And there you have it: My Plastic Model Company conspiracy theory. HA! -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
If they were to reissue just one of the two RRs, IMHO the '72 is the one to reissue. It would have such novelty appeal. More novelty appeal, I think than the Fuzz Duster reissue - which is the prime example of a novelty kit. I'm still floored that they would reissued the Fuzz Duster before the other RR kits. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Well, if you want Round2 to re-release them, email them at either: info@round2models.com or Contact Us Round2 Let them know. Strength in numbers, squeaky wheel... yada yada If they really wanted to fix damaged tooling, they could do it. They've done it in the past with other kits. There's no good reason not to re-issue them, IMO -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
So... I decided to contact Round 2 through their "Contact Us" webpage. Here's what I wrote: And here's what they wrote back: Seems nice enough. Will they take it seriously? Who knows. But If you want to let Round 2 know you'd like to see these kits reissued, I would go either here: Contact Us Round2 Or just email them here: info@round2models.com ... and send them a note. Tell them you want to see a reissue of the 1972 ('71) MPC Plymouth Road Runner. That's about all we can do. Maybe they'll listen. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
OK, got some catching up to do. Shameless "self-plug": my wife gave birth to our second child (boy) a couple of days ago. That means I have to put off building that '80 Volare RR for my first son! (who, BTW, at the age of four is already a Mopar fan!!) You're absolutely right. I would just feel horrible if I screwed up a kit that I shelled out $150 for! In fact, after the Virgil Exner disaster in the early 60s, Chrysler Co execs issued an internal edict saying that they would follow GMs designs by 1-2 years. The 71-72 body design was suppose to debut in the fall of '69 as a 1970, but budget problems pushed it back a year. I had read somewhere there were even a couple of "1971 GTXs" built either very late in '69 or very early in 1970, before the 1970 model year had finished, but who knows if that was really true; it probably was a myth. Although with the discovery of those 1972 six pack 440s, ya never know. It sounds that would have been Tor Red. The real question is, did the spoiled brat wrap that RR around a telephone pole, or did he wrap it around a tree? Because only one of the two had to have happened. It HAS to be that the tooling is damaged. Why else wouldn't they release it? It seems like a no-brainer to reissue it: there's pent up demand, the kits sell quickly on ebay even at an absolutely crazy high price, Mopar kits are always popular and those cars especially... I mean, maybe I'm talking out of my butt here, but I just can't understand why they won't reissue them. Especially after reissuing the '80 Volare Road Runner. If your gonna do that kit, at least put out the 71/72 as well.. come on! Is there anyone at Round2 that can confirm/deny that the tooling was destroyed? I'm desperate. If it is true that the tooling was trashed, that would be a real shame. Although, wouldn't they be able to take an original 71-72 kit and reverse engineer it? And, yes '72 would be ideal! Not that ugly air-grabber hood '71 kit! Thank you for pointing that out gtx6970. Everyone claims that there was a massive detuning for '72 but that's simply not true. The detuning actually happened in '71 to appease insurance companies. The '68-70 RR 383s were a different story. The '71 383 and the '72 400 are identical, same block, same NET hp/tq numbers, the 400 just had a bigger bore to account for slightly lower compression. It's the switch to "SAE net" hp ratings in '72 that throws people off. -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Funny, I see 72s pop up on ebay for zillions of dollars. I'm always tempted to place a bid but then I remember I dont have a zillion dollars! Seriously, I couldnt bring myself to build a kit that is over 40 years old, so I wouldnt be interested in buying yours I would rather build a kit that Round2 should reissue!!! GRRR! -
MPC 1971 Road Runner Reissue (?)
drksd4848 replied to 1972coronet's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Hello, first time poster long time lurker. I'm reserecting this post. In fact, I am kind of miffed. The fact that round two would reissue the 1980 Plymouth Volare Road Runner (of which I bought four!) and NOT re-issue the 71-72 Road Runner kit it is beyond puzzling, to say the least. Re-issuing that kit would seem to be a no-brainer. Especially since they've also re-issued the 74 Road Runner. And You would think the 80 Volare would be less popular than either of those kit. Seriously, what gives? The tooling still has to be there. It was reissued as late as 1987. There's got to be something else at play. Either someone high up at Round2 doesnt like that specific year of Road Runner or they think that the 71-72 kit wouldnt sell. Which is ridiculous. It would be more popular than the 1980 road runner kit, IMO. Either way, I'm throwing down the gauntlet. Re-issue this kit Round2. The fact that it has been re-issued by now is absolutely mind-boggling.