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Also the theory behind painting racing engines black, but, "I don't think so, Tim."

I agree there.

That's because he doesn't really have anything to say about. Max put Bernie in his place at the end of last yet and has been quiet since. I think he's just waiting for the storm to pass and pick up the pieces, only if Max is swept away.

Didn't get kicked off, but have had a number of posts deleted and warned for the most rediculous, stupidest, petty things. I guess it's a pretty good place if you are in the IN group over there, otherwise it's just a matter of time before you get sick of the bs and leave or are asked to.

That maybe but it doesn't make it right.

FIA stewards are asking for Max's resignation, now.

Statement by the FOTA, In a historic move, eight F1 teams say they plan to break away and form a new series in 2010. Since the formation of FOTA last September the teams have worked together and sought to engage the FIA and commercial rights holder, to develop and improve the sport. Unprecedented worldwide financial turmoil has inevitably placed great challenges before the F1 community. FOTA is proud that it has achieved the most substantial measures to reduce costs in the history of our sport. In particular the manufacturer teams have provided assistance to the independent teams, a number of which would probably not be in the sport today without the FOTA initiatives. The FOTA teams have further agreed upon a substantial voluntary cost reduction that provides a sustainable model for the future. Following these efforts all the teams have confirmed to the FIA and the commercial rights holder that they are willing to commit until the end of 2012. The FIA and the commercial rights holder have campaigned to divide FOTA. The wishes of the majority of the teams are ignored. Furthermore, tens of millions of dollars have been withheld from many teams by the commercial rights holder, going back as far as 2006. Despite this and the uncompromising environment, FOTA has genuinely sought compromise. It has become clear however, that the teams cannot continue to compromise on the fundamental values of the sport and have declined to alter their original conditional entries to the 2010 World Championship. These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new Championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners. This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders. The major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport will all feature in this new series. Note: Statement issued by FOTA on behalf of BMW-Sauber, Brawn GP, Scuderia Ferrari, McLaren-Mercedes, Red Bull Racing, Renault, Scuderia Toro Rosso and Toyota.

Yeah, not quite as good racing as last year, as Audi got completely stomped by the Pugs. I still like to know what happened to the Privateer Pug that was completely distroyed. They are even talking a LMP3 class as well.

It just wasn't Ferrari. Which there is some speculation they are already working on a LMP1 car. Toyota and BMW showed lots of interest, especially Toyoty who said they would very much like to come back to LeMans with a LMP1 car.

Apparently went straight off at one of the chicanes.

Looks like it just might be the Pugs year. I just heard a report about a overheating problem with Audis last bullet which has gone 2 laps down now.

What is left of them is owed by, I will have to look up again. There isn't enough left without significant money and rebuilding. They need much more than just cleaned up. They were basically worn out when a most of the tooling was damaged and parts were lost. You would have to start over from scratch.

Could be Peugeot's yeah, they put that Audis a lap down already and it sounds like one of the Audis launched an engine.

Me too.

Yeah-yeah that the one... opps Just doesn't seem right, right.... right.

So it looks GM has sold off or gave back all their boat anchors. SAAB > Koenigsegg Sweden Hummer > ??? China Opel > Opel Germany Saturn > Penske US? Pontiac > OB

How quickly people forget. BLMC

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Pos # Team Cls Driver in Pit Ses. 1 Ses. 2 Gap LastLap Now 1 8 Team Peugeot Total LMP1 SARRAZIN Stephane 3'22.888 3'30.696 Pit 2 1 Audi Sport Team Joest LMP1 KRISTENSEN Tom 3'23.650 0.762 3'30.540 Run 3 7 Team Peugeot Total LMP1 MINASSIAN Nicolas 3'24.860 1.972 3'25.708 Run 4 17 Pescarolo Sport LMP1 TRELUYER Benoit 3'25.062 2.174 5'09.428 Pit 5 9 Peugeot Sport Total LMP1 GENE Marc 3'25.252 2.364 3'50.332 Pit 6 2 Audi Sport North America LMP1 WERNER Marco 3'26.352 3.464 3'27.764 Run 7 3 Audi Sport Team Joest LMP1 BERNHARD Timo 3'27.106 4.218 3'34.624 Run 8 007 AMR Eastern Europe LMP1 CHAROUZ Jan 3'27.180 4.292 3'39.324 Run 9 008 Aston Martin Racing LMP1 TURNER D 3'27.704 4.816 3'39.956 Pit 10 13 Speedy Racing Sebah LMP1 BELICCHI Andrea 3'28.134 5.246 3'47.464 Pit 11 23 Strakka Racing LMP1 LEVENTIS Nick 3'29.798 6.910 3'59.180 Pit 12 16 Pescarolo Sport LMP1 JOUANNY Bruce 3'30.466 7.578 3'37.200 Run 13 15 Kolles LMP1 ALBERS Christian 3'31.192 8.304 3'54.240 Pit 14 14 Kolles LMP1 LOTTERER Andre 3'31.548 8.660 3'43.208 Pit 15 10 Team Oreca Matmut AIM LMP1 MONTEIRO Tiago 3'33.514 10.626 3'42.128 Run 16 11 Team Oreca Matmut AIM LMP1 PANIS Olivier 3'33.860 10.972 3'37.916 Run 17 009 Aston Martin Racing LMP1 KOX Peter 3'33.968 11.080 3'33.968 Run 18 6 Team LNT LMP1 MOORE Nigel 3'35.804 12.916 3'58.620 Pit 19 4 Creation Autosportif LMP1 CAMPBELLWALTER Jamie 3'36.552 13.664 3'36.552 Run 20 31 Team Essex LMP2 POULSEN Kristian 3'37.720 14.832 4'02.572 Pit 21 5 Navi Team Goh LMP2 KUNIMOTO Keisuke 3'37.802 14.914 3'48.300 Run 22 12 Signature Plus LMP1 RAGUES Pierre 3'39.326 16.438 3'53.164 Pit 23 33 Speedy Racing Sebah LMP2 KANE Jonny 3'41.724 18.836 4'08.720 Pit 24 25 RML LMP2 ERDOS Tommy 3'41.952 19.064 4'11.332 Pit 25 40 Quifel ASM Team LMP2 AMARAL Miguel 3'42.012 19.124 4'50.944 Pit 26 30 Racing Box LMP2 BIAGI Thomas 3'42.848 19.960 4'14.704 Pit 27 41 G.A.C. Racing Team LMP2 GOSSELIN Claude-Yves 3'44.830 21.942 4'19.884 Pit 28 35 OAK Racing LMP2 AJLANI Karim 3'45.032 22.144 3'57.564 Run 29 32 Team Barazi Epsilon LMP2 BARAZI Juan 3'52.956 30.068 11'37.784 Pit 30 39 KSM LMP2 DE POURTALES Jean 3'53.072 30.184 7'01.288 Pit 31 63 Corvette Racing LMGT1 MAGNUSSEN Jan 3'54.230 31.342 3'58.224 Run 32 64 Corvette Racing LMGT1 GAVIN Olivier 3'54.702 31.814 3'56.264 Run 33 26 Bruichladdich Bruneau LMP2 ROSTAN Marc 3'55.320 32.432 4'12.948 Pit 34 66 Jetalliance Racing Gmbh LMGT1 MULLER Alex 3'56.126 33.238 4'01.164 Run 35 72 Alphand Aventures LMGT1 ALPHAND Luc 3'57.170 34.282 4'16.060 Run 36 24 OAK Racing LMP2 YVON Jean-Francois 3'57.524 34.636 4'04.284 Run 37 73 Alphand Aventures LMGT1 CLAIRAY Yan 4'00.528 37.640 9'21.928 Run 38 80 Flying Lizard Motorsport LMGT2 LAW Darren 4'03.202 40.314 5'47.208 Pit 39 77 Felbermayr Proton LMGT2 HENZLER Wolf 4'03.232 40.344 4'16.836 Run 40 82 Risi Competizione LMGT2 MELO Jaime 4'04.056 41.168 8'56.676 Pit 41 99 JMB Racing LMGT2 BOUCHUT Christophe 4'04.084 41.196 4'17.260 Pit 42 97 BMS Scuderia Italia LMGT2 MALUCELLI Matteo 4'04.222 41.334 4'04.244 Run 43 76 Imsa Performance Matmut LMGT2 NARAC Raymond 4'04.648 41.760 4'18.756 Pit 44 78 AF Corse LMGT2 COMPANC Luis 4'04.938 42.050 4'16.732 Run 45 92 JMW Motorsport LMGT2 KIRKALDY Andrew 4'05.168 42.280 4'27.632 Pit 46 87 Drayson Racing LMGT2 FRANCHITTI Marino 4'06.482 43.594 4'13.728 Run 47 89 Hankook-Farnbacher LMGT2 MONTANARI Christian 4'06.612 43.724 4'20.148 Pit 48 85 Snoras Spyker Squadron LMGT2 BLEEKEMOLEN Jeroen 4'08.348 45.460 4'28.472 Pit 49 84 Team Modena LMGT2 EHRET Pierre 4'08.508 45.620 4'22.284 Run 50 83 Risi Competizione LMGT2 KROHN Tracy 4'08.758 45.870 4'28.152 Pit 51 70 Imsa Performance Matmut LMGT2 LECOURT Michel 4'10.014 47.126 5'25.668 Pit 52 75 Endurance Asia Team LMGT2 HESNAULT Philippe 4'10.456 47.568 6'44.896 Pit 53 96 Virgo Motorsport LMGT2 VERGERS Michael 4'10.664 47.776 4'10.980 Run 54 81 Advanced Engineering LMGT2 DEMPSEY Patrick 4'13.920 51.032 4'32.012 Run 55 68 JLOC LMGT1 YAMAGISHI Yutaka 4'21.812 58.924 4'21.812 Run

Or maybe not Second to the bottom of the time sheets and just went in the grave and needs a tow.

I think he will do okay. The F430 is pretty stright forward to drive and he is coming along in his driver's programme.

It was a wet free practice, dont mean anything.

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I think so but all I have seen so far of those cars are natural car prototypes