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I woun't tell anyone....but that was good...George had two Mustangs. One was the Malco Gasser with the 67-68 body style (as in the recent kit) and the other was Mr Gasket Gasser with the 69-70 body style. The chassis for both Mustangs are pretty much the same but if you want to do the Mr Gasket car you'll need a resin 69 body...or use the one in the MPC based 69 Mustang Mach 1 re-issued under the AMT/Ertl name in the 90's. The 69-70 had two different engine combinations, first a 427 SOHC as the earlier Mustang and Willys, later a turbocharged Boss 429.

George even ran a Blown 59 Cadillac before that (390 based stroked to 414 cui). There are at least 3 good pictures of the SOHC engine here that I found just now when I did a quick google search...save them or open them in a new window and they gets a lot larger http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/drivingamerica/Explore.aspx?okey=333297

In my opinion a car with large wheels must be low to the ground, otherwise it looks like an old horse carriage, so the right stance is crucial in this case.

I thought of that at first but remembered it was a SOHC, the same engine can be found in the Altered Wheelbase Falcon and Mercury Comet from the same series. Yes the 427 SOHC is based on the FE but it has a different intake manifold that doesn't fit on a regular FE as it's narrower and the heads are a lot different. The SOHC manifold is a Hilborn style injection manifold as you said but it might work if the post spacing is right for the Webers, so one might be able to modify it to fit a regular FE if you used the sides from a regular FE intake manifold so you get the part where it goes under the valve cover, and the middle from the SOHC.

Go for the 2 'n 1 Deluxe Kit and I think you will be pleased...I for sure was when I bought mine. If you can't find one of those then you should try to find the Custom version as it has most of the parts I listed except for the showroom stock engine, I'm not that into the 60 Starliner itself as I think Ford has done better looking Galaxies, but the kit is so good so I've got several of them anyway dedicated as donors for other builds.

If the Revell 1964 Ford Thunderbolt is done correctly it should have a "Hi-Riser" 427 but it's not a "Side Oiler" as that came in 1965. But the best FE engine in my opinion in a kit is the one in the AMT 60 Ford Galaxie Starliner kit wich is among the best kits AMT ever did. If you get the quite recent 2 'n 1 Deluxe Kit you get two engine blocks and transmissions, three intake manifolds (one single 4V (332-428), one 2X4V (427 Medium Riser) and one 3X2V (390-406), one set of short cast iron headers (406) and one set of long cast iron headers (427), one set of plain unplated valve covers, one set of plain chrome plated valve covers and one set of chrome plated "Thunderbird" script valve covers, three nice Holley 4160 4V carbs with vacuum secondarys and three Holley 2300 2V carbs. Except for that you'll get a nice 60-64 Ford Galaxie chassis to use with the older AMT 63½ and 64 Galaxies wich fits with some slight modifications, and the best 9 inch rear end i have seen in a kit so far, you also get a set of Shelby style traction bars, a nice set of Astro Supreme rims, lake pipes and some other nice stuff. if the engine is a"Hi-Riser" and "Side Oiler" is not that visible in a model, a "hi-riser" is just heads with taller intake ports and matching intake manifold where the ports are straighter and carburators is mounted higher up than stock (as on the Thunderbolt engine), and the "side oiler" has oil gallerys casted to the the lower engine block on the drivers side slightly visible on a real engine, a 427 block should also have the middle three main caps cross bolted and have threaded freeze plugs as did all of Ford's hi-performance engines...but as I said, that's not that visible on a model without looking very close. These engine was not that common, the 427 side oiler came 1965 so before that it was the regular "top oiler" without the outside oil gallery, the hi-riser was also short lived, it came 1964 but was outlawed by NASCAR 1965 and was replaced with the medium riser head and intake package and faded out. So you can use the 60 Starliner FE engine and call it what you want.

Well if the engine was a Cummins NHC, NTA or NTC it should be beige close to sand color, and if the engine was a Detroit 8V-92T it was probably silver, these colors dirty and a dirty white looks fairly the same from some distance. You're welcome.

Standard front seats and where the back seat had been it was carpeted. The Modelhaus has plated Keystone wheels from the Jo-Han kit in resin, and Competition Resins has the front tires from the Jo-Han kit in soft black resin, they are more correct than the kit tires.

I have edited the list as I have found out more regarding the Cat Yellow, I don't want to give out false information and the list to be as correct as it can be. So if anyone finds more inaccuracys both in the color list and engine list let me know and I'll fix it.

Yes, the later MPC Funny Car kits aren't that bad.

Yes research is a big part of the fun and necessary if you want to do it right.

Nice build. I picked up one of these at ebay recently and I got a set of aftermarket decals for mine as I don't trust old decals. You are right, the engine needs to be changed as Milner had a small block in the dragster in the movie...narrower rear tires would also be more correct to the movie car, AMT Parts Pack 11.75 X 16 M&H tires are more suitable for the time the car was supposed to be from.

Do a google search and you'll find out everything you want to know both in pictures and text. May we go back on topic.

Very nice Scott.

I't not easy to do a correct list of the S & M cars as you can find some conflicting information in books and on internet, I just read in the book SUPER STOCK Drag Racing The Family Sedan that the SS/E Superbird was equipped with a 440 Magnum and I've read somewhere else that the C/MP Superbird also would have had a 440...first of all the "Magnum" name was used by Dodge, not Plymouth, and after what I have found out reading the magazine articles from that time both the S & M Superbird's had Hemi's, the SS/E car with an Edelbrock Rat Roaster dual 4-bbl intake manifold and the C/MP car with a Weiand individual runner dual 4-bbl intake manifold much like the 70 and 71 Barracuda's had. I believe the only S & M cars with 440's was the Super Stock 68 and 69 GTX's and the "Clinic cars", and one Stock 68 Barracuda had a 340, most the other ones were Hemi cars as far as I know.

Many car manufacturers did change from side valves to over head valves, Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth and a lot of others did change from flathead (also often called L-Head) to OHV in the late 40's to mid 50's...but not all as you mention, Buick is one as David Dunbar Buick was a pioneer and developed the OHV design, and I think Chevrolet only have had OHV engines...even the Chevrolet Series-D V8 from 1917-18 was of OHV design. Many car manufacturers chose to go for the flathead design probably because it was cheaper and simpler to manufacture than the OHV design and several of them held on to this old design fairly long...among them Ford who changed as late as 1954. Most of the modern engines are SOHC or DOHC design...but nothing is new under the sun, back before WW2 the aircraft industry used OHC design, 4-valve per cylinder and fuel injection technology, the car industry was way behind and slowly adapted to this technology fairly late except for racing purposes but have now refined it to what we have today. Edit: I wrote this at the same time as you Bill, the content in my posting is essentially the same. One other thing...I don't mind explaining to people who doesn't know about these things... but all information regarding the different engine designs can be found on internet as it's the Worlds largest library, just do a Google search on what you are wondering about and I'm sure you will find answers to most of your questions.

No the Boss 429 and most of the conventional engines are OHV engines they have the cam in the center of the engine block and activate the valves via lifters, pushrods and rockers, a SOHC has the cam in the heads and can have rockers, but not allways, to activate the valves, a DOHC aslo has the cams in the heads and the valves are activated directly by the camshafts. OHV stands for Over Head Valves and the engines before them had side valves as the Flatheads has where the valves are almost directly activated by the cam lobes, and OHC is Over Head Cam where the camshaft/camshafts is on top in the heads...conventional engines has the camshaft in the engine block as I said and so do the side valve engines. So SOHC is short for Single Over Head Camshaft, DOHC is Dual Over Head Camshaft and OHV is Over Head Valves

They are from the same Corvette ZR-1 kit as the engine.

That's what I've heard also and that why I wrote New Cat Yellow.

Don't ask...you don't want to know. Lets say it like this...these machined aluminum, photo etched and resin parts are not cheap...but if you want to build a model at this level you might have to spend the money to get it as you want it. By the way, I like what I see Tyrone.

iIt's simple, it's called SOHC as it has a Single Over Head Cam on each head operating both the intake and exhaust valves, a DOHC has Dual Over Head Cams on each head, one cam operates the intake valves and the other operates the exhaust valves. Edit: It looks like you beat me to the line Bill

The 427 SOHC and the Boss 429 was developed for the same reason at different times, to compete in NASCAR racing as an answer to the Mopar 426 Hemi. Both the SOHC and the Boss are Hemi style engines (the SOHC is a true Hemi and the Boss is a Semi Hemi) but are based on different engine familys, the 427 SOHC is based on the FE family and came in 1964 developed in just 90 days and the Boss 429 is based on the 385 family and came 1969. NASCAR did not allow the SOHC as they banned OHC designs when they heard of the SOHC and that Mopar was developing a RB family based A925 DOHC 32 valve Hemi engine so Ford gave the SOHC engines to drag racers instead. The pushrod Boss 429 was allowed for use as the required 500 engines had been produced but it was killed off as were the 426 Hemi beginning in 1971 when NASCAR restricted the carburator/intake port sizes to reduce speed on Super Speedways. The 427 SOHC produced 616 hp with a single 4bbl carburator and 657 hp with dual 4bbl's with torque in the 515-575 lbs/ft range from the factory and was the most powerful Ford engine produced. The Boss 429 was rated at 375 hp and 450 lbs/ft in the street cars but produced somewhere around 600 hp in NASCAR race trim...that's not that much if you compare with todays 358 small block NASCAR engines wich produces close to 1000 hp except for the restricted Super Speedway engines.

Yes Sox & Martin subjects are plentiful as they had several cars each year and of each body style for different purposes before they closed up shop, some of the cars were used only in one year and some were used several years. They competed in Stock and Super Stock Eliminator, Modified Production, Pro Stock and Factory Experimental in different sanctioning bodys with different drivers, Buddy Martin did some driving in the beginning together with Ronnie Sox and Ronnie and Herb McCandless did most of the driving later, but Don Carlton among others did some driving for the S & M team from time to time, and the team did a lot of match racing and had cars modified for that purpose.

I'm not 100% sure but I think the large diesels were manufacturer color.

Fred Cady might have done them as he did many different decals...but he has unfortunately closed up shop.