im pretty sure it was late on sat last year too..we had a table, so i didnt have to go in with the public. i do remember people complaining that they had to pay 12 bucks for just a few hrs as they wernt comming back on sun.maybe the guys you saw paid for floor rights.sad, cause im thinkin that even with the nnl, the toledo shows are on life support. kevin fron missing link and i were discussing shows. both of us are probably only going to set up at shows with nnls. they draw our best customers.