DR JAY Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 ...wow. Just wow. The replica is excellent, James. The weathering and execution are also excellent...one of the best I have seen on the subject. As a scale replica builder, I appreciate the time and talent required to pull off a quality job like that. I was formerly an active member of another forum which shall remain nameless in a vain attempt at playing the duck. There were more than a few DoH cars displayed by builders both new/young and seasoned/adult. The one constant was that there was ALWAYS someone willing to call the builder out for their choice of subject--using ALL CAPITALS IN ORDER TO GET THEIR POINT ACROSS or even name calling, insults and thinly veiled threats that, honestly, they would never use when speaking to someone in person. The behaviour got--in my opinion--way out of hand and I got to thinking; "Why am I even here? Is this a model car forum where people can show and discuss their hobby to be enjoyed by many or is it a place where a simple thread can be transformed into a political soap box by a few at the expense of someone who worked hard to complete a killer replica?" Should we turn this place into one where the moderators are more like hall monitors who shut everything down at the 1st sign of differing opinion or have to resort to outright banning of anything more controversial than a glass of milk? Great job, James. I would have liked to have seen more pictures before the thread got the axe, I really like it here, but I think I may take a few days off to consider my choices. As an adult, if there's something I don't like, I have the choice to shut it off; switch channels; change lanes; etc and move on with my life. I shouldn't resort to interrupting someone else's presentation in order to make myself heard because my perspective differs I try to move on. THAT being said, I do have to agree about life being full of disappointments--but not in a cynical manner. When the radio plays Nickelback (Yech!) instead of Led Zeppelin, the TV is showing The kardashians instead of a documentary or the driver in front of me is texting; I don't take personal issue with the program director, the Teleguide or the driver in front of me. I try to move on and do what I can to get past it. And Ron Hamilton---Great Comments! Now: why don't we ALL just build something and post pictures to show off our work and prove that we use this resource for more than the kind of attitude and comments that would result in our wife banishing us to the couch if we tried them on her...
Hemified71 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Ok, guys, here's why the thread was locked. First of all, I had to delete a bunch of posts that were nothing but foolish PC nonsense and/or childish "schoolyard bully" type comments that actual grown adult men really shouldn't still be relying on to get their point across. And then I locked the thread because I have better things to do with my time than sit here and babysit a thread to make sure no more idiocy gets posted. I just don't have the time (or desire) to be a forum babysitter 24/7. I do this job voluntarily. On my pwn time. For zero pay. And I'm not complaining... just explaining. Honestly, there's only so much time I'm willing to spend cleaning up messes here. As it is, I probably spend more time moderating here than all the other moderators combined ever did. So I'm putting in my time, and doing my job... but this is not my full-time job. So for the above reasons, I locked the thread rather than keep it open and constantly go back and keep cleaning it up. I didn't delete it... the pics are still there for anyone to see the model. You just can't make any more dumb comments on the thread. And BTW... stupid stuff like this is exactly why the SA forum banned the GL altogether. That decision is looking better and better to me. I always thought (or at least wanted to believe) that our members were above that sort of thing, but apparently we have our share of knuckleheads here, just like over at SA. You know what Harry? I think that's a good idea. Just ban GL builds/topics altogether. The debates & arguments that it causes, EVERY SINGLE TIME, just isn't worth your time policing, specifically because it's not a paid job, being the only moderator here. Not worth the trouble & BS. If I were you I'd ban everything GL related... & I'm just as big a fan of the DOH as the next guy.
kalbert Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Now: why don't we ALL just build something and post pictures to show off our work and prove that we use this resource for more than the kind of attitude and comments that would result in our wife banishing us to the couch if we tried them on her... The signal to noise ratio here is about the worst of any message board I read. Posts that actually show models, techniques, or seek advice last a couple pages of one or two short sentence responses. Drown out by a cacophony of noise from threads that go tens of pages with dissertations on why everyone is wrong but me, or worse an pack of hungry trolls with no regard for humanity. I haven't been a member here Very long. But I have seen this on other message boards, and they usually self destruct. Eventually the quality members move on, or the forum is shut down all together because it reflects negatively on the sponsor. Will this be the straw that broke the camel's back? I don't know, waves of belligerence seem to come in go here quite frequently. I realize of course that I'm contributing to it, so I believe I'll bow out. Going to see if there are any pictures to look at and if not go work on a model. Edited July 16, 2015 by kalbert
Jon Haigwood Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Mr Little look to the left " AND GET OVER IT" You Sir , offend me , you offend my hobby and need a good spanking and some serious lessons in manners that it is apparent that you where not properly raised as a young child. Edited July 16, 2015 by Jon Haigwood
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Morgan Freeman was asked in an interview what he thought was the best way to stop racism. His answer was "Stop talking about it." ...just like the best way to stop this silly shittstorm is to just...stop it.
Perspect Scale Modelworks Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Yikes! "Cant we all just get along?" Debate can be good and clearly emotions run deep on both sides of this one. But why get so personal and disrespectful? Oh, and Ron Hamilton is The Man when it comes to model building and intellect. Together we stand, divided we... Never mind. Edited July 16, 2015 by Perspective Customs
Jon Haigwood Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 It's a Model forum for God's sake. Take your hate elsewhere. Sick of trolls
Monty Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) You know what Harry? I think that's a good idea. Just ban GL builds/topics altogether. The debates & arguments that it causes, EVERY SINGLE TIME, just isn't worth your time policing, specifically because it's not a paid job, being the only moderator here. Not worth the trouble & BS. If I were you I'd ban everything GL related... & I'm just as big a fan of the DOH as the next guy. The only thing that should be banned is politicizing a model because of its decals. To the wicked, everything serves as pretext. - Voltaire. Edited July 16, 2015 by Monty
Badluck 13 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 when's that Revell '29 Ford coming out?I read end of July/Aug.......
Darren B Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Those who display the stars and bars in a deliberate display of racism deserve all the negative feedback in the world. Same with the Nazi swastika. I also build Military models of German subjects. It doesn't mean I'm racist. I just think the Germans built some pretty cool stuff. I'm still glad they lost the war though. To display ANY of these things to African Americans or people of the Jewish faith is to be completely Politically tone deaf. But to get bent out of shape over a decal on a model??? Really??? could have not said it better....
IceMan Collections Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Ok, guys, here's why the thread was locked. First of all, I had to delete a bunch of posts that were nothing but foolish PC nonsense and/or childish "schoolyard bully" type comments that actual grown adult men really shouldn't still be relying on to get their point across. And then I locked the thread because I have better things to do with my time than sit here and babysit a thread to make sure no more idiocy gets posted. I just don't have the time (or desire) to be a forum babysitter 24/7. I do this job voluntarily. On my pwn time. For zero pay. And I'm not complaining... just explaining. Honestly, there's only so much time I'm willing to spend cleaning up messes here. As it is, I probably spend more time moderating here than all the other moderators combined ever did. So I'm putting in my time, and doing my job... but this is not my full-time job. So for the above reasons, I locked the thread rather than keep it open and constantly go back and keep cleaning it up. I didn't delete it... the pics are still there for anyone to see the model. You just can't make any more dumb comments on the thread. And BTW... stupid stuff like this is exactly why the SA forum banned the GL altogether. That decision is looking better and better to me. I always thought (or at least wanted to believe) that our members were above that sort of thing, but apparently we have our share of knuckleheads here, just like over at SA. But why do the majority of us have to suffer with locked threads because of handful of silly chicks that can't keep their political views to themselves. Don't you have some sort of warning system here? Use it. Ban them. The people that can play together and get along are the ones that should still be allowed here. You don't have the time to babysit, then get rid of the babies. I guarantee it'll make life easier on you and lots of people here will be happier about it. Next thing you know we wont be able to build a black car or a brown truck or a Japanese car. Where does it end. If one person feels offended, then maybe they shouldn't be here...and by here I mean the internet. There are thousands of offending things on the web. Like other sites, you dont like it, you don't go them. This is a MODEL CAR FORUM. It's always been suggested to build to what you like. And if we start to build making sure we don't offend anyone, we'll never have fun. If you don't like what you see here, keep your mouth shut, don't comment, and move along....or better yet, don't come back!
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