wolfer Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 hey all since my last post i have checked into the iwatta brand airbrushes . and as soon as i held 1 i could tell the difference between the aztek i have and the iwatta. my ? is i will be buying 1 from the ECLIPSE ?? line and was told that none of these will get me a line big enough to do a 1.24 or 1.25 scale body .but on the iwatta website it says they go from a thin line to 1and 1/2inches who is right AND ALSO using any solvent based paint or car paint is not A GOOD IDEA but in a flame book i was looking at a lot of the 1'1 guys use these brushes any more info would be GREAT THANKS AGAIN
Guest Gramps-xrds Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Go look at a Paasche VL-5. It'll put out enough paint for your models. Been painting models w/ one for prob 25 plus yrs. I don't know what an Iwata costs but the VL is bout $78, And if you want finner lines buy the VL-1 head,cone and needle assembly.
Guest Gramps-xrds Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 Go look at a Paasche VL-5. It'll put out enough paint for your models. Been painting models w/ one for prob 25 plus yrs. I don't know what an Iwata costs but the VL is bout $78, And if you want finner lines buy the VL-1 head,cone and needle assembly. Check this place out their alot cheaper than I though. http://www.dickblick.com/categories/airbru...andairbrushkits
Brendan Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 The Iwata is perfectly fine for painting car bodies. It's a pretty standard spray pattern for an airbrush. You can change the spray pattern by changing out your needles and cones. Most airbrush companies tell you not to use solvent based paints in their airbrushes. Pasche also has the instructions not use solvent based paints. Their main worry is that the o-ring in the air valve will deterioriate. Just make sure that when you're cleaning your airbrush to remove the air valve. I have used both Iwata and Pasche. Both are excellent airbrushes. Iwata is better for doing fine detail. I have a Pasche, which is over thirty years old. It was a hand-me-down from my brother. And I am looking at purchasing an Iwata at some point in the future.
Zoom Zoom Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I have the Paasche VL (w/all three fine/medium/large needles/nozzles/tips) and the Iwata HP-CS Eclipse, and I far prefer the Iwata. It sprays bodies just fine, and will also do finer detail. There's no contest which brush is more precise or better made and the Iwata is much easier to clean, but I've also noticed that the Iwata prices have jumped dramatically. The one I got at Hobby Lobby for 40% off for $90 would now be about $117 plus tax w/the coupon. My last Badger Crescendo was about $42, and I prefer the Crescendo over the Paasche VL.
Guest Gramps-xrds Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 I'll agree, I prefer Badger over Paasche, especially for finer work and weight. Having never used an Iwata I can only judge them on price. Paasche is cheaper than both. and Dick Blick has very good prices on all of them. My advice is still, buy the best you can afford.
CAL Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) also a Badger 150 and 200 user. Good brushes, but I did have the chance to use a Iwata, which even better. For modeling you probably want a PLUS series. e.g. HP-XX Plus. An HP-C Plus is going to be my next brush for sure. for these reasons High-Precision, High-Detail Work Renowned as the professional's workhorse, the popular High Performance Series has just been pumped up these inspired new features. Dual-purpose, cutaway and pre-set handle for easy clean up and precise control of paint flow Teflonâ„¢ needle packing for automotive or other solvent-based paints Larger threads on the nozzle offer a more secure fit and better centering of the nozzle Redesigned tapered gravity-feed cups ensure easy clean up and more efficient paint flow Single-piece auxiliary lever/needle-chucking guide provides easy assembly Edited March 26, 2008 by CAL
Bob289 Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Sounds like you are quoting the sales brochure. The Iwata is a nice air-brush and i have one. That said, in my opinion the Badger is just as good for far less money and if you do need repair parts, they are much easier to get.
CAL Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 Sounds like you are quoting the sales brochure. The Iwata is a nice air-brush and i have one. That said, in my opinion the Badger is just as good for far less money and if you do need repair parts, they are much easier to get. Yeah! That used to be, at least around here, everybody is dropping Badger and only stocking Iwata. They have closed out all their Badger parts. I can't even get needles and heads anymore without mail ordering them. Otherwise my Badgers have serviced me very well.
Guest Gramps-xrds Posted March 26, 2008 Posted March 26, 2008 That's ok I'll keep my badgers. They've always had teflon bearings and seals. I've sprayed alot of auto laquers through them and they've made me a good bit of extra money over the yrs for all I paid for them. Here's what I used to do w/ them, plus alot of motorcycle tins.
CAL Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 Nice, looks like some of Frank Miller, Luis Royo, and Boris Vallejo's works.. I don't have anything against Badger Brushes. They have work well for me. It is just getting more and more difficult to get parts, and the little experience with Iwata I did have I was impressed with.
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