crazyrichard Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) i could not part with the charger gasser build , but it was finished .. looking at my old charger i got the creeps ..... i build that a while back , less skills and when i still cut corners ... most of my rods (fords and all) already got some updates but that charger .. looks cool sitting on its wheels in the display cabinet .. but man it had issues ... the underside ... i build it and when assembled came up with the idea to slam it .. seemed cool at the time but that gave issues i cut the oil pan and even the gearbox after assembly to put it that low and then put the wheel in in a way hmm could have been better .. never build airbags or lines ... also the wheels are quit large but the tyres are not wide at all .. skinny even .. so see from the bottom it looked horrible ... now a charger on air .. nah stupid i want to change it and with keeping the paint build it touhger ... racy ... not perfect and not ratty a bit inbetween general mayhem and a showstopper ... this was the result just after completing the build back then .. fon its tyres not real bad looking now all pics are lousy the clear on this is one that shows every toutch and every toutch leaves fingerprints , so now redoing it i have to hold it so pics how a fingerprinted and hazy paint ripped off the exhaust maybe i will make sidepipe or cutouts ... the oilpan and gearbox carnage lol > closed the oilpan and grearbox with styrene , kept the pan thin so i can still go low in the front (not real low) and add stuff and have it looking drivable , painted it all red again , oil filter white , drieshaft in metal coat and redid the black on the chassis , all by hand while it was together the fingerprinted body the engine didnt look horrible , maeb some toutch and add ons ups later choosen tyres , wide fat tyres , both in the front and back , bot of diameter difference .. just anice racy look , will sit way higher then it was .. a charger doesnt deserve to be slammes like i did before .. so now i need to redeam myself so far tats what i did ... to be continued ...:) Edited May 15, 2016 by crazyrichard
MoparWoman Jamie Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Another one of my fave cars. the 1969 Charger, Yea your right, these are not ment to be slam to the ground, they pose to be muscle cars not road scrapers. Edited April 17, 2016 by M0par Jim
crazyrichard Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 yes i dont know what i was thinking back then .. seemd cool at the time ... i want it to have some nice deep rims .. bit like the wide steelie style ... some styling ideas on the look for the rims (general feel) started with mazda steelies from a old roadster mazda .. cut a second set of rims and used those ring to create the front rims rear rims will be even wider , used bbs rims for the rings the full set just sprayed them satin black , pic right after paint still wet , will dry up satin .. going for the black on black , will make it real sinister ...maybe even black out the grille / headlight surround ?? of try to make a custom panel there with visible headlights ?
mustang1989 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Oh man! He's at it again! Cant wait to see the outcome of this one Rich!!!
crazyrichard Posted April 18, 2016 Author Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) thnx joe .. this wil not be a superlong or extensive build .. just want the undercarridge to make more sense and make it racy , brutal ... i'm thinking about making / masking off a design and then spray it on with matt black .. so its just visible .. not the black on it now is not a very deep gloss .. onl got one thin layer of clear back then .. so this gloss with a matt design would look awsome i think .. also i'm thinking about a mild weathering , mainly make it look like its been blasting on dirt roads and it tad dusty round the wheell wells ... i'm even tempted to make it even more rough ...maybe a difefrent colored door ?? not sure yet ... could be cool ...maybe too much ? anyway i needed to make the massive tyres run free , i made the leafspring a tad more narrow on a point where it doesnt really show there the tyre sits .. and then spread the body panel behind the rear tyre ... on the lower prt of the rear quarter panel . put small strips in between the panel and chassis bringing the panel out some more and that gave me the room to run the tyres free without hacking up the body .. the rims finished , need chrome lug nuts .. but they look great i'm so happy with the outcome its resting on the tyres so it will it a tiny bit higher lter on .. but man this is the look i wanted , a sinister racy charger when i spread the quarters it also came out at theback where i worked the rear bumper into the body .. not a probem its going to be a tiny bit rough overall and dirty there Edited April 18, 2016 by crazyrichard
willieman Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Not meant to be a slam, but your engine will never hold enuff oil with oil pan that shallow. I always strive to have realism in my builds.
crazyrichard Posted April 18, 2016 Author Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) i understand willie and you are right i already was aware of the issue i just wanted to close it , i need to be sure i have the final tyres and then i can see how i will sit hight wise with wheels and suspension ..then look at adding a new pan .. i have several oil pans but in a way i was running into problems hight wise , these are just pieces of styrene on there .. i already cut one oil pan in half because part of the stock pan is on the engine with the new styrene on top ...so if i peel that off i can glue on a part pan out of the parts box and then paint it ... my way of building is a bit like i start and see where i end up and usually i change stuff several times along the way .. first need to get some general idea's.. look at my gasser charger build.. that took some while and i changed around on things a few times .. and no worry's you can say stuff like that and i also strive for realism so in that way .. i feel you ... so maybe i will try to peel of the whole pan , also the part with the bolts that was still on .. and fit a whole pan .. or make something custom , wider then now and a tad higher .. will need to be a mix between ride hight and ... you know ? Edited April 18, 2016 by crazyrichard
slusher Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I like the new wheels and rubber Richard and looking forward on what you do with this build..
mustang1989 Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I like the new wheels and rubber Richard and looking forward on what you do with this build..Ditto on that!
crazyrichard Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 thnx guys atm i have several suspension parts on the bench , oil pans , i will have to create something custom ..since i dont have the kit supension ..would be easyer to start from the ground up .. but this one is glued so tight i will leave it , make something decent from it ... then after that start a more extensive build
bobthehobbyguy Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Interested in seeing the changes you afe going to make. As farcas the oil pan you could mke it look like a dry sump system where there wpuld be a shallow tank and a seperate tank to hold the oil.
crazyrichard Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 thnx .. well i already tackled the oil pan just altered a pan with a notch and closed it .... going to use this suspension it from a oldskool nissan z ... will be altered and fit to the charger , already cut of ome parts .. just needed something that would fit and with this i can build up some cutom suspension and it fit in the idea to revamp this one without making it a massive build .. after a while i could dryfit the front wheels with part of the suspension so at the front it sits on the supension and the ride hight is set .. i could go a tad higher still but i kind of like it .. on the rear the body jut sits on the tyre that will be rised and the car will get a mild rake painted the pan red , the front and rear chassis where painted high gloss black , to bad it doesnt really show on the pics .. but it a nice contrst between the gloss and more matt black on the floor
crazyrichard Posted April 20, 2016 Author Posted April 20, 2016 thnx .. here is part of the new suspension in black > found some schocks that will work .. i want to remake the bars to the chassis that the charger originally has ... the bushings on the rims (orange) i need to change that later , for now it works dryfitting .. i could widen the suspension bracket .. we will see
JTalmage Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 I'd put some Dodge dogdish hubcaps over the wheels. That would look killer. it would also cover up the 4 lug wheel centers.
crazyrichard Posted April 20, 2016 Author Posted April 20, 2016 could be cool je .. i could try something .. i think i have some small caps .. i think i like it better the way it is now .. but i will def. try..and you are sharp on the lug nuts hahahaha just got a great idea how to change the orange bushes on the wheels and so i can keep them and not widen the bars .. i have 2 brake discs that fit inside the wheel , without the edge sticking out they fit over the bushes ... making them a part of the brake disc assebly .. i found a wat to hide them .. when i will actually make it and its done i'll post pics to explain what i mean .. bit tired now so i wont be building ...then it always go's wrong lol
mustang1989 Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Nice work on that suspension Rich. Stance is killer. Wow!
crazyrichard Posted April 21, 2016 Author Posted April 21, 2016 I'd put some Dodge dogdish hubcaps over the wheels. That would look killer. it would also cover up the 4 lug wheel centers. thnx for the idea .. you rock turns out that looks spot on ...see below Nice work on that suspension Rich. Stance is killer. Wow! thnx .. rear will be raised slightly then its perfect i think an those hubcaps just brought it to life man sooo cool and what a difference , really looks musscle car now ! main susupension is mounted inside wheels and bushes black , now i need to alter and partially make brake discs will get so much more detail underneith .. going to run fuell lines , brake lines and i have much better material now then when i did the charger gasser .. thin brass rods .. perfect size
slusher Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 The caps really show the depth of the wheels. Are they 68 Chargers?
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