72 Charger Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Hi all I have just got the Revell 70 Challenger T/A and I was thinking of doing it in the Panther Pink colour . What I wanted to ask is what colour primer would of been used back in the day? I have seen somewhere that they used grayI would of thought white would of given a better colour? As I cant seam to find any pics of the underside . Did they paint the underside completely or just oversprayed the edges? Edited November 19, 2016 by 72 Charger
High octane Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 I would use white primer under any color other than black or silver. Here's a photo of mine......................
72 Charger Posted November 19, 2016 Author Posted November 19, 2016 That is what I thought thanks Nick
StevenGuthmiller Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I would use white primer under the paint as Nick said, but for the chassis, I would use gray if it's to be over sprayed.Chrysler would not have used white primer on the 1:1.I believe most cars of the period would have had body color over spray around the perimeter, but something tells me Mopars may have been painted underneath entirely.I'm sure one of the true Mopar gurus will be able to tell you for sure. Steve
gtx6970 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 A medium grey primer was used by mopar at most everything ...except the LA plant. They used a very very dark grey thats almost black
gtx6970 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 Ps. No mopar underside was ever full body color
Snake45 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I would use white primer under the paint as Nick said, but for the chassis, I would use gray if it's to be over sprayed. Chrysler would not have used white primer on the 1:1. I believe most cars of the period would have had body color over spray around the perimeter, but something tells me Mopars may have been painted underneath entirely. I'm sure one of the true Mopar gurus will be able to tell you for sure. Steve Quoted for truth.
tgabreu Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I would use white primer under the paint as Nick said, but for the chassis, I would use gray if it's to be over sprayed.Chrysler would not have used white primer on the 1:1.I believe most cars of the period would have had body color over spray around the perimeter, but something tells me Mopars may have been painted underneath entirely.I'm sure one of the true Mopar gurus will be able to tell you for sure. SteveHere's something to think about as far as painting the undersides of models: the car companies cut costs every way they could, especially in the 60's and 70's. Think about how much paint would have been wasted by not properly adjusting the spray equipment to spray just where absolutely necessary. I was a painter in body shops and prototype shops from the late 70's until about 10 years ago, and it was fairly common to be able to see primer in door jambs and the bottom of rocker panels. The practice of "over spraying" the bottoms of cars in 1/1 scale restorations is, in my opinion, way overdone. The actual amount of over spray, reduced to 1/25 scale, would be nearly imperceptible.Tom
72 Charger Posted November 20, 2016 Author Posted November 20, 2016 Thanks guys I think I will go with white on the body and grey on the underside. with a small bit of overspray
Art Anderson Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 My '70 Cuda in Rallye Red had red oxide primer underneath the red color. As for overspray on the bottoms of the rocker panels, that did go perhaps 3" inward toward the center of the unibody floor pan--I saw my car before it was undercoated at the dealership, up on a lift. Challengers and Barracuda's came off the same assemblyline.Art
1972coronet Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 In reality , there were more than one colour of primer employed by Chrysler. I have seen black , red oxide , and Grey ( Lynch Road plant ) ; black , and gray.( Hamtramck) , black , gray ( Los Angeles) , and ; gray , and yellow-green ( St. Louis , and Newark) . Most of the base primers were applied in a dunk-in-a-vat manner ( black , and red oxide ) , with the grays being sprayed ( by hand , esp in the older plants ) .Just curious : are there any documented. FM3 AAR' Cuda or Challenger T/A? It was a Spring 1970 colour ( along with FY1 and _______ ) , and seeing that the T/A and AAR were built in March-April ( along with other "regular" Barracuda and Challenger models ; a story in itself! ).Have fun building your "JH23J0B" , 72Charger! It's a fun kit . If I may recommended so : use the Holley 2300 atomisers from the 1971 GTX 440 Six Barrel , as they are **much** nicer than the lumps called carburretures in the Challenger ( and 1970 GTX and 1969 Super Bee ) .
High octane Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 The white primer seem to make the colors "pop" a lot more than they grey primers. Therefore as said before, I only use grey primers under black or silver colors.
72 Charger Posted November 20, 2016 Author Posted November 20, 2016 Thank you Art/John/Nick some Very good info there . I will try my hardest to do a good job on it . I have wanted a Challenger for a long time and I have always wanted to do it in the Panther Pink . I will put up pics as and when I can thanks againDave
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