Dirty Dave Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I recently picked up one of Moebius' '65 Comet Cyclone kits, and I've started collecting parts to build it up into a street/strip car. I'm thinking a high-reving 289 terror that sees the streets on Friday nights, and the strip on the weekends. Since I'm shooting for what would pass tech as a late '60s D/MP drag car, I'm on the hunt for a dual quad or tunnel ram intake for a small block Ford. The only one that I remember clearly is the unit from the MPC Mustang II kit, but I'm sure that there must be others. I suppose the cross-ram Cobra manifold from the AMT '66 Mustang kit could also be a contender, but that makes for some funky staggered hood scoops.Anyway, I'll be back with pics soon, but I thought I might pick some of your brains for sources for speed parts, and maybe a good set of skinny slicks that I can cut a couple of cheater grooves into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarheelRick Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 A possible source for the slicks is the older original issue of slicks from AMT; I believe there are a set of cheater slicks in there. The only hi-rise 2X4 for a SBF I can think of is in the Firefox Mustang kit, which I think you have already suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I recently picked up one of Moebius' '65 Comet Cyclone kits, and I've started collecting parts to build it up into a street/strip car. I'm thinking a high-reving 289 terror that sees the streets on Friday nights, and the strip on the weekends. Since I'm shooting for what would pass tech as a late '60s D/MP drag car, I'm on the hunt for a dual quad or tunnel ram intake for a small block Ford. The only one that I remember clearly is the unit from the MPC Mustang II kit, but I'm sure that there must be others. I suppose the cross-ram Cobra manifold from the AMT '66 Mustang kit could also be a contender, but that makes for some funky staggered hood scoops. Anyway, I'll be back with pics soon, but I thought I might pick some of your brains for sources for speed parts, and maybe a good set of skinny slicks that I can cut a couple of cheater grooves into. .......the MPC/ ROUND2 75 DART SPORT has a nice set of M/T cheater slicks that should fit nicely, and be correct for that late 60s to mid 70s era,,,,and as for tunnel rams, the one offered in the AMT 75 and 76 GREMLIN kit's is very generic, and easily workable to use on several brands of small block's. The 2 carb's supplied are ok, but a better set of Holley's and a bit of tweaking would be the way to go....just a couple idea's here.....nice project ,,,,,,,the Ace.......oh, the use of a tear drop scoop would still suit the era too, as they were still being used by some guy's on M/P car's even at that point.... Edited March 28, 2017 by AC Norton text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatMan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I like your idea for a S/S Comet Dave. I recently saw one at the Cleveland Autorama. I've got the same kit as well and going another direction and that's a great idea for tunnel ram from Ace. Another idea would be to get the generic TR kit from VCG resins and work it up using the stock manifold. It would be more work but it might be cheaper depending on what you could get a Gremlin kit for. Dunno, just another option. Edited March 28, 2017 by MeatMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I like your idea for a S/S Comet Dave. I recently saw one at the Cleveland Autorama. I've got the same kit as well and going another direction and that's a great idea for tunnel ram from Ace. Another idea would be to get the generic TR kit from VCG resins and work it up using the stock manifold. It would be more work but it might be cheaper depending on what you could get a Gremlin kit for. Dunno, just another option. yup, Dennis,,, I just thought that working over the Gremlin piece would keep it inexpensive and easy to accomplish. I would bet that grabbing one off the forum from guy's who built their car stock will be painless too......the piece you suggest is very nice by comparison, although I bet buying a Gremlin kit may prove a better deal all round, as then you would have slicks, Cragar's, decals,,etc as bonus for later builds....just a thought.....the Ace.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dave Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 yup, Dennis,,, I just thought that working over the Gremlin piece would keep it inexpensive and easy to accomplish. I would bet that grabbing one off the forum from guy's who built their car stock will be painless too......the piece you suggest is very nice by comparison, although I bet buying a Gremlin kit may prove a better deal all round, as then you would have slicks, Cragar's, decals,,etc as bonus for later builds....just a thought.....the Ace.... I'm on the same page as you are. While that resin piece is really nice, I'm thinking the Gremlin's tunnel ram probably looks more like the earlier cast aluminum manifolds, and not so much the later fabricated sheet metal ones. Besides, I still have about $30 in credit left at the LHS, and that should just about cover the cost of a Gremlin that was still on the shelf a couple of weeks ago. If I search around enough, I'm sure that I can come up with a pair of skinny slicks in my parts bin. Most of the ones I have are probably 8.20 wide, but there must be a pair that can pass for 7" ers. And although the '66 rules mandated 7" slicks for MP, I have a feeling that got wider a couple of years later - I will check. Now I just need to decide on what kind of scoop/hood blister to build up... likely make it look like a garage-fabricated piece, and not some parts house fiberglass unit, but we'll see what looks right as i move on with this. Thanks for the advice, gentlemen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I'm on the same page as you are. While that resin piece is really nice, I'm thinking the Gremlin's tunnel ram probably looks more like the earlier cast aluminum manifolds, and not so much the later fabricated sheet metal ones. Besides, I still have about $30 in credit left at the LHS, and that should just about cover the cost of a Gremlin that was still on the shelf a couple of weeks ago. If I search around enough, I'm sure that I can come up with a pair of skinny slicks in my parts bin. Most of the ones I have are probably 8.20 wide, but there must be a pair that can pass for 7" ers. And although the '66 rules mandated 7" slicks for MP, I have a feeling that got wider a couple of years later - I will check. Now I just need to decide on what kind of scoop/hood blister to build up... likely make it look like a garage-fabricated piece, and not some parts house fiberglass unit, but we'll see what looks right as i move on with this. Thanks for the advice, gentlemen! David, those Gremlin kit's can usually be bought quite reasonable on ebay, 75 or the 76 version. As for slick's,,, the pair in the AMT 36 FORD would probably work....they seem to be just the right size for a wheel opening as the Comet has....but many different type's may do here.....even the MH pie crust slick's may do it........the Ace.........just checked ebay....there is a new mib 76 Gremlin on at 12 bucks, or best offer....THATS a great deal....item number is 122398637338.....I always hate seeing someone pay too much...lol............the Ace.. Edited March 28, 2017 by AC Norton text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dave Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 David, those Gremlin kit's can usually be bought quite reasonable on ebay, 75 or the 76 version. As for slick's,,, the pair in the AMT 36 FORD would probably work....they seem to be just the right size for a wheel opening as the Comet has....but many different type's may do here.....even the MH pie crust slick's may do it........the Ace.........just checked ebay....there is a new mib 76 Gremlin on at 12 bucks, or best offer....THATS a great deal....item number is 122398637338.....I always hate seeing someone pay too much...lol............the Ace.. I'll have to pull out that '36 kit - converted it to a gasser/streat freak sort of like the Hot Wheels Neet Streeter - those slicks are probably still laying in the bottom of the box. The more I look at the single four-barrel on the top of that tunnel ram, them more that I like that look. On a little 289/302, that seems like it should be enough fuel/air, even at 9,000 rpms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'll have to pull out that '36 kit - converted it to a gasser/streat freak sort of like the Hot Wheels Neet Streeter - those slicks are probably still laying in the bottom of the box. The more I look at the single four-barrel on the top of that tunnel ram, them more that I like that look. On a little 289/302, that seems like it should be enough fuel/air, even at 9,000 rpms. I agree.....a single carb tunnel ram on a killer 289-302 with the right combo would be a very hi-revving little engine. Those small block Ford's can, and do rev stupid rpms just like a SBC.....my friend has a 70 Boss 302 and I have been in the car several times over the year's and seen the Sun tach hit 7000 and it's stock with header's and some tuning......even my '92 5 litre Mustang with some bolt on's and 4.10 gears back in the mid 90s went thru at just over 6000 and other friend's with lots more than I had were turning 7800-8200 with fuelie's...........the Ace...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Againmikewins Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 David, those Gremlin kit's can usually be bought quite reasonable on ebay, 75 or the 76 version. As for slick's,,, the pair in the AMT 36 FORD would probably work....they seem to be just the right size for a wheel opening as the Comet has....but many different type's may do here.....even the MH pie crust slick's may do it........the Ace.........just checked ebay....there is a new mib 76 Gremlin on at 12 bucks, or best offer....THATS a great deal....item number is 122398637338.....I always hate seeing someone pay too much...lol............the Ace.. Yikes! $20 shipping? I found this one for about $8 cheaper. https://www.ebay.com/itm/112333303046 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Yikes! $20 shipping? I found this one for about $8 cheaper. https://www.ebay.com/itm/112333303046 wow, did not notice that......the Ace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dave Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Yikes! $20 shipping? I found this one for about $8 cheaper. https://www.ebay.com/itm/112333303046 I appreciate all of the help, fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) .....my friend has a 70 Boss 302 and I have been in the car several times over the year's and seen the Sun tach hit 7000 and it's stock with header's and some tuning...... Well a 302 Boss doesn't wake up until those RPM's due to the huge intake runners and valves in the Boss heads. The stock camshaft in the street car Boss engines was too lame and needed to be swapped for a hotter one that allow higher RPM's so the engines could perform as they were capable to, a good tuned 302 Boss with the right content could be revved up to 8-9000 or even higher.The rated HP for the street 302 Boss was 290 hp at 5800 rpm and the rev limiter was set at 6250 rpm, but the engine was capable of a lot more as the stock connecting rods were good up to around 8000 without breaking, and I saw a dyno result on a stock 302 Boss where it hit 372 hp at 6800 RPM. Edited March 30, 2017 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I didn't mean to offend anyone, even if you know there are people that doesn't, so I just wanted to give out information to people who didn't know. Edited March 30, 2017 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dave Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 I've heard my own small share of 10,000 rpm small blocks, and it's those very sounds that are inspiring this build-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Norton Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I've heard my own small share of 10,000 rpm small blocks, and it's those very sounds that are inspiring this build-up. .........my favorite's as you mention were the small cube Modified Production and Gas class Corvette's from the 70's era....Ault and James, Larry Kopp, Checkmate, and on and on......some of the most exciting and wild round's that I ever witnessed....love 'em all.......the Ace.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 gee, I didn't know ANY of that.......I guess over 43 years of owning and running several cars and only being around it all since around '68, I've either learned or experienced nothing.....maybe us dumb North American's should move to Sweden were it's at.....yumpin' yimminy , I have to catch my bus,,,gotta go.......the Ace..... Not sure where this came from Ace. No need to dump on an entire country just because you do not like that someone provided additional information to one of your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dave Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 If I can get out of the office in time tonight, I may be able to pick up a Gremlin on my way home. I'm thinking that I could possibly finish this in time for the SoCal NNL on May 7. That's be pretty cool - haven't displayed a new street machine or drag build in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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