highway Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 It's amazing how often people ask for advice/help/info then react aggressively when they don't get EXACTLY the answer they want, how they want to hear it, in a form that doesn't get their undies in a twist.
Spex84 Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Well this is interesting. I had thought those scoops must be Eldon/Doyusha...but in further comparison, I'm just not seeing it! The scoops on Greg's model appear to be rounded in back, whereas the Eldon parts are V'd. The Eldon scoops have a beveled edge that is constant in width around the perimeter, whereas Greg's scoops feature a bevel that flattens towards the back, much like the 1:1 Cal Custom 40-40! Thanks for the additional angles showing the profile of those scoops more clearly, Greg. I think maybe we have not gotten to the bottom of this yet! *Edit* Or maybe I'm second-guessing myself too much. Still...I'd like to think that maybe there's another cool kit out there that I haven't heard of yet that features these scoops. IMHO any perceived aggression on this thread has stemmed from a misreading of tone, which can be difficult to convey in text. If possible, I would like the discussion going forward to be solely about awesome air scoops that look like Cal Custom 40-40s...and their kit sources. Edited December 5, 2017 by Spex84
modeladdict Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 FWIW There are 3D printed scoops available now. I know it doesn't answer the question of where those came from but it gives you an alternative source now.https://www.shapeways.com/product/BF4A5XPKT/1-25-wedge-scoop-for-4-barrel-carbs-x2?optionId=63512518
Ron Hamilton Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 10:21 AM, Greg Myers said: To clear this up, these are the scoops in question. They were in an early model car kit issued in the mid sixties. They were two parts two to a kit. The 1:1 scoops were made by Cal-Custom and were available for two and four barrel carbs. The scoops we're looking for here are the four barrel scoops. The question is, what kit did they come in? I believe that those scoops were in the original AMT 1964 1/2 Mustang Kit.
FordRodnKustom Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, Ron Hamilton said: I believe that those scoops were in the original AMT 1964 1/2 Mustang Kit. You are correct sir! I pulled out my kit and checked and sure enough. I thought I had seen those things somewhere before!
Spex84 Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Winner, winner, chicken dinner!! Thanks to all who responded with leads! That's them, all right. I never would have guessed Mustang.
Greg Myers Posted December 5, 2017 Author Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) As our recently departed ( Non Automotive) Friend would say, " Shazam!" Now that, my friends ( all of you that contributed positively ) is what this board is all about'. A "Gracious" Thank you to all especially Ron Hamilton and Ron Savoie, and of course Chris Drysdale for prompting me on another thread as to the origins of these Scoops. Yes! 1965, I had several Mustang kits so s where I remember them from. Now to hit the stash and see if thar original AMT Fastback Mustang still has some in it, Edited December 6, 2017 by Greg Myers grammer
michaelbaskett Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Those Scoops are also in the 65 Chrysler Imperial Kit...
FordRodnKustom Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Hmmmmm..interesting. Hard to tell for sure but the ones in the Chrysler look to be one piece? They sure are nice though...as is most of that kit!
Ron Hamilton Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 5 hours ago, FordRodnKustom said: You are correct sir! I pulled out my kit and checked and sure enough. I thought I had seen those things somewhere before! I have one of those in my collection, waiting to be built. I have an old glue-bomb, that had those scoops, that I thought were cool.
Casey Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 12:58 PM, Mark said: The Revell opening-doors '55 has the Cal Custom aluminum scoop that attaches to the top of the hood. Is this the (old) Revelll '55's Cal Custom scoop, part number X53(?)? (not the yellow scoop):
Snake45 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 1:33 PM, Greg Myers said: Right there in MY stash all along. I just checked my mint '66 kit. The dual carb setup survived; the scoops, sadly, did not.
Ron Hamilton Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/7/2017 at 10:01 AM, Casey said: Is this the (old) Revelll '55's Cal Custom scoop, part number X53(?)? (not the yellow scoop): I just picked up one of those scoops for a future project.
JPolli Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 On 12/1/2017 at 2:13 PM, mk11 said: Here's the closest ones I can think of...
Casey Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 On Tuesday, December 05, 2017 at 2:42 PM, michaelbaskett said: Those Scoops are also in the 65 Chrysler Imperial Kit... And carried over to the AMT 1966 Chrysler Imperial kit, too:
Greg Myers Posted September 24, 2018 Author Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) On 12/5/2017 at 1:42 PM, michaelbaskett said: Those Scoops are also in the 65 Chrysler Imperial Kit... Edited September 24, 2018 by Greg Myers
Greg Myers Posted September 24, 2018 Author Posted September 24, 2018 Cal Custom did quite a few scoops, some bolt to the hood , some on top of the carburetor.
Greg Myers Posted September 24, 2018 Author Posted September 24, 2018 and a popular one from Ford trucks ?
Casey Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 On 12/5/2017 at 12:59 PM, FordRodnKustom said: You are correct sir! I pulled out my kit and checked and sure enough. I thought I had seen those things somewhere before! It looks to me like the AMT Mustang Hardtop/Convertible kit's scoops have near vertical front edges, while the scoops in question have angled front edges, giveing hte scoops a pronounced, angular fishmouth shape. I don't think the scoops in question are from the Mustang kit, but rather the AMT '65 and '66 Imperial kits, as Michael mentioned: On 12/5/2017 at 2:42 PM, michaelbaskett said: Those Scoops are also in the 65 Chrysler Imperial Kit... The instruction sheet for the AMT ('65) Mustang HT/CV seems to jibe with what I see in the kit parts posted above, though there does appear to be some flash on the scoops:
Greg Myers Posted February 17, 2019 Author Posted February 17, 2019 Can't leave well enough alone. The scoops I used on the '40 Ford build were indeed from the Mustang kit as I did have that kit when it first came out and have never had the Imperial kit. One can clearly see in my pictures that the scoops do indeed have the angled front edge. Actual pictures of actual parts vs drawings in the instructions. I think what we have here is a dead horse.
Casey Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 On 12/1/2017 at 12:58 PM, Mark said: The Revell opening-doors '55 has the Cal Custom aluminum scoop that attaches to the top of the hood. I happened upon this Revell News page scan, and while the tone of the writer is very tongue in cheek, it states the scoop was made by Cragar:
Greg Myers Posted March 30, 2020 Author Posted March 30, 2020 Listed as Offenhauser Scoop on Summit site
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