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I'd say technically it is. They sold 21+ M Beetles that essentially was an unchanged design. Toyota sold 30+M Corolla lables but there is nothing in common between a 1966 and a 86, 96 or 2006 Corolla.

exactly why I was kind of thinking twice. ;)

For someone who knows but you'd be surprised how many haven't clue that the rings even mean something.

psssht, yeah right, the olympics....wait.....darnit :rolleyes:<_<

ok, so a couple might know!

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16/20 tag lines got me too. Too many current car questions - What a tough one? Try this - Who is the only original car maker to have two brands that survived the twentieth century named after him? Name the two brands.

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16/20 tag lines got me too. Too many current car questions - What a tough one? Try this - Who is the only original car maker to have two brands that survived the twentieth century named after him? Name the two brands.

can you be more specific? you asked WHO and then said to only name the two brands.

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can you be more specific? you asked WHO and then said to only name the two brands.

OK, I can make it a bit more specific. Who was the person who founded the two companies named after him, and what are the brand names? One is a bit tricky because it is a truck manufacture.

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Here is another one for you. This may be too easy for some. The BMW logo is a graphic representation of a physical object. What is that object?

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Here is another one for you. This may be too easy for some. The BMW logo is a graphic representation of a physical object. What is that object?

It is rumored that it was the blades of a prop cutting through the blue sky, but BMW experts say that isn't the case at all.

The BMW roundel was created some twelve years before BMW had anything to do with aircraft. It was dirived from an earlier Rapp Motorenwerke GmbH, from which BMW came from. The colors, blue and white actually come from the Baviarian flag colors.

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It is rumored that it was the blades of a prop cutting through the blue sky, but BMW experts say that isn't the case at all.

Thought that might be a bit too easy. I have never seen any dissenting views on the design. Interesting. Who are the "experts" that you are suggesting? Just about every source I can find states the "prop" explanation as a definitive answer.

Incidental, Saab had a twin engine aircraft front profile as its logo in the early years. A fair number of early auto makers had ties to aircraft manufacture. In WWII both BMW and Mercedes made engines for aircraft as well as Rolls Royce, Packard, Ford, and GM. Maybach engines powered numerous German tanks including the infamous Tiger I.

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Thought that might be a bit too easy. I have never seen any dissenting views on the design. Interesting. Who are the "experts" that you are suggesting? Just about every source I can find states the "prop" explanation as a definitive answer.

Incidental, Saab had a twin engine aircraft front profile as its logo in the early years. A fair number of early auto makers had ties to aircraft manufacture. In WWII both BMW and Mercedes made engines for aircraft as well as Rolls Royce, Packard, Ford, and GM. Maybach engines powered numerous German tanks including the infamous Tiger I.

I know but it doesn't make sense. BMW didn't get into aircraft long after the roundel was already designed.

But here is at least one expert.

BMW logo; Fact or Fiction By Dr Florian Triebel.

http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/roundel-myth.pdf

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It is rumored that it was the blades of a prop cutting through the blue sky, but BMW experts say that isn't the case at all.

The BMW roundel was created some twelve years before BMW had anything to do with aircraft. It was dirived from an earlier Rapp Motorenwerke GmbH, from which BMW came from. The colors, blue and white actually come from the Baviarian flag colors.

Interesting! I was not familiar with the RMW connection. I just found this site which seems to give credence to your comments in general. http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/roundel-myth.pdf However the aircraft part of it appears to be incorrect. Rapp was in the business of designing and selling aircraft engines from the beginning. BMW came about when Rapp left the company he founded and the directors renamed the company for the location. Thus BMW started life as a aircraft engine design and manufacturing company.

Great to learn something new!

Thanks

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Interesting! I was not familiar with the RMW connection. I just found this site which seems to give credence to your comments in general. http://jeff.dean.home.att.net/roundel-myth.pdf However the aircraft part of it appears to be incorrect. Rapp was in the business of designing and selling aircraft engines from the beginning. BMW came about when Rapp left the company he founded and the directors renamed the company for the location. Thus BMW started life as a aircraft engine design and manufacturing company.

Great to learn something new!

Thanks

As far as I know BMW started life as a engine supplier. I don't know that it was strictly aircraft engines.

Basically when BMW was starting Germany was banned from making aircraft, therefore no need for aircraft engines. So they made motorcycles.

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16/20 tag lines got me too. Too many current car questions - What a tough one? Try this - Who is the only original car maker to have two brands that survived the twentieth century named after him? Name the two brands.

I did a bit more research and have to change the information slightly. One of the brands died in 1975 :blink: If one is to propose a question, it would be a good thing to get the facts straight. In fact the brand name is still alive, but it is attached to something entirely irrelevant to motor vehicles.

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I did a bit more research and have to change the information slightly. One of the brands died in 1975 :blink: If one is to propose a question, it would be a good thing to get the facts straight. In fact the brand name is still alive, but it is attached to something entirely irrelevant to motor vehicles.

well lets see here, pretty much all British makers colapesed 1975 and were effectively OB: Layland, Triumph, Jaguar, MG, and Itialian De Tomaso.

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I've got a trivia question for you:

Which model year did the Big Three totally change their FULL SIZE models' styling all at once?

In other words the model year did not carry over any styling from the previous year. Be careful-------because their were some model years that Ford and GM changed, but Chrysler didn't. And also Chrysler and Ford may have changed, but GM didn't.

I'll give you one hint...........it's definitely post war...........:(

Also take note that I said full size................Not intermediates, although there was a year that all the intermediates between the Big Three all changed at once from one model year to the next.

There may have been another year when this happened, but this is the most significant year post war.

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I've got a trivia question for you:

Which model year did the Big Three totally change their FULL SIZE models' styling all at once?

In other words the model year did not carry over any styling from the previous year. Be careful-------because their were some model years that Ford and GM changed, but Chrysler didn't. And also Chrysler and Ford may have changed, but GM didn't.

I'll give you one hint...........it's definitely post war...........:P

Also take note that I said full size................Not intermediates, although there was a year that all the intermediates between the Big Three all changed at once from one model year to the next.

There may have been another year when this happened, but this is the most significant year post war.

I am guessing 1958

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I got 19 out of 20. I missed the scion color on their badge. :P

You mean Kia, there wasn't a scion color question.

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You mean Kia, there wasn't a scion color question.

Yes my bad Kia. I put blue but it was red.

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I am guessing 1958

GM was the only one that changed that year..............Ford and Chrysler were basically the same. Both those makes had mild updates from 1957, while GM had a total redo for '58, although one could say that Olds, Buick, and Cadillac were mild updates from '57.

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I played that trivia game and I originally got a 14 out of 20! :P

The taglines/slogans are what got me............I don't pay much attention to the ad lines much anymore as they've become meaningless over time.

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GM was the only one that changed that year..............Ford and Chrysler were basically the same. Both those makes had mild updates from 1957, while GM had a total redo for '58, although one could say that Olds, Buick, and Cadillac were mild updates from '57.

Um, but I thought that was the year of the new 300 and the Crown Vic had a significant face lift.

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Um, but I thought that was the year of the new 300 and the Crown Vic had a significant face lift.

I guess the most significant would be 74-75 I know some lines were a little ahead 73 and some behind 75.

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Give me something easy like what was the original designation for the 911?

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I played that trivia game and I originally got a 14 out of 20! :P

The taglines/slogans are what got me............I don't pay much attention to the ad lines much anymore as they've become meaningless over time.

First of all they are all the same... I might pay more attention when Pontiac actually built something exciting, or if Chevy actually had a heartbeat.

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