3D Printed 1958 Facel Vega HK500

[MrObsessive]

Before I got the Maserati Birdcage files, I was given this file for free by Mitch Verhey of 3DScaleCars on FB. It's a 1958 Facel Vega HK500, although depending on the engine, it could be a version through 1961. I had to split this one as it would be too big for the build plate, so I ran the body file through 3D Builder, and split it in half.

It printed OK as far as it goes, but as you can see the body is very heavily "faceted". As I mentioned, it was a free file and I've tackled difficult body projects before. You've seen my roof swaps, split roof mods, among other things, so this while it'll take a bit to correct, it's not impossible in the least.

Eventually, I'd use a modified '57 Chrysler 300 frame with the front end components possibly from a '60 Ford. I've got LOTS and LOTS of pics of this car inside and out, including a vid on the steering mechanism being restored and working. Hemi engine out of the Chrysler would work as well, and I'd be heavily modifying an interior, especially scratchbuilding the dash which is quite unique.

Here are some pics of it on the build plate, and with it glued together..............

The file was done in 1/10 scale, so I dug around to find the 1:1's specs and went from there to scale things to 1/25th.

Here's the body after it was split in my program.

One thing I found interesting is that I did not have the "missing support" issue with this file like I had with others that had the opening doors, trunk and hood. I strongly believe that there's something with that configuration that the slicer can't "see", so it doesn't know to keep the supports going to connect where those areas are open. This time everything completed as far as the supports going top to bottom, and as far as it goes, the body halves came out well.

One MAJOR issue with this file is the roof was too flat. I used my tried and true Dynatron Putty-Cote to add a higher crown to the roof, using my phone a scaled template to get the curvature like the 1:1. As can be seen above, the C pillars are way too wide, so the pencil marks are where I wanted to thin them down.

As we can see, all the body panels will need some smoothing out. I did try to fix this in Blender, but the body showed up MUCH worse with the adjustments I tried to make. Either which way, this can be worked with, and I can whip it in to shape with some effort.

Eventually new trim will be added to the body, and I'd like to (carefully) cut out the hood and trunk. I won't open the doors on this........the wall thickness is a bit thin, despite me changing that setting in Chitubox. That would cause trouble at the doglegs of the A pillars, so I'll avoid doing that.

No matter.............. ?

Edited April 19, 2022 by MrObsessive

[keyser]

Thanks Bill. There is a 1/24 diecast for the less talented (me). Looks like you’re getting your favorites printed right and left. Ghibli and P1800 look great too. Glad you keep showing background so I can rib you. Great work Bill. Great taste in cars too. 

[MrObsessive]

11 minutes ago, keyser said:

Thanks Bill. There is a 1/24 diecast for the less talented (me). Looks like you’re getting your favorites printed right and left. Ghibli and P1800 look great too. Glad you keep showing background so I can rib you. Great work Bill. Great taste in cars too. 

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I didn't know there was a diecast.......do you know who makes it? I'm curious to check out the proportions on that. Yeah, I've been trying to get files of cars that I know will probably NEVER see the light of day from any of the major kit manufacturers.

I do believe that's where the hobby is heading.......instead of buying a kit from the kit makers, you'd just buy the file and print it out, or have it printed somewhere. I've been saying for years now that this is the next big wave, and it looks like it's arrived!

EDIT: I just came across an HK500 from Sunstar in 1:18. Not bad! They're VERY prolific in putting out oddball stuff that you just don't see.

Edited April 20, 2022 by MrObsessive

[Ace-Garageguy]

10 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

 

...I've been trying to get files of cars that I know will probably NEVER see the light of day from any of the major kit manufacturers...

 

You can count on this one never being mainstream, for sure.

Nice choice in subjects, good looking work.

I'm now kicking myself again for letting one of these that was abandoned at a defunct shop get away decades ago.

[RomanII]

Here is a link to one of the 1/24 scale diecast Facel Vega.  I have purchased from this seller and can recommend.  The car looks good to me but I haven't studied the real car like you have.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353787540853?hash=item525f617575:g:qCEAAOSwadtho0i1

 

 

 

[keyser]

1/24. Recent, but scarce. Couple brands on same model. Salvat most often. A Pegaso Z102B around too, also 1/24. Wander by the diecast section Bill  ?

Edited April 20, 2022 by keyser
Pegaso

[MrObsessive]

37 minutes ago, keyser said:

1/24. Recent, but scarce. Couple brands on same model. Salvat most often. A Pegaso Z102B around too, also 1/24. Wander by the diecast section Bill  ?

Hey, that's not bad! I wish it had the wraparound windshield like the later cars.......I might wanna steal some stuff off of that!

I've got a ton of files to do the Pegaso. Full opening everything, including interior, tires, and wire wheels. There's two body files with it.......one with it split up for smaller printers, and another with the entire body. Separate doors, hood, trunk, etc.

I've got a lot of pics of it, but for the life of me I cannot find chassis pics of this car. I know it had a rear transmission and a De Dion rear end, but dang if I can find pics of one being restored or on a lift.

Edited April 20, 2022 by MrObsessive

[Ace-Garageguy]

18 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

...I've got a ton of files to do the Pegaso. 

I've got a lot of pics of it, but for the life of me I cannot find chassis pics of this car. I know it had a rear transmission and a De Dion rear end, but dang if I can find pics of one being restored or on a lift.

Do you have these?

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/gallery/Pegaso-Z102-95614.html

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/338051515756274773/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/801781539908844782/

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy

[Ace-Garageguy]

This site might help...

https://www.motorpasion.com/deportivos/galeria-de-fotos-de-un-pegaso-z-102-al-desnudo-en-el-auto-retro

[MrObsessive]

10 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

This site might help...

https://www.motorpasion.com/deportivos/galeria-de-fotos-de-un-pegaso-z-102-al-desnudo-en-el-auto-retro

Thanks Bill! Those pics help a lot! If I can get pics of what the floor looked like underneath, that would be great! Wow............that sure is a lot of swiss cheesed steel huh?? ?

[MrObsessive]

@Ace-Garageguy

I already got this car scaled out when the times comes for me to want to print it. I like to keep specs on hand as I'll need the percentage I'm using to do the other parts too later on.

[Ace-Garageguy]

19 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

Thanks Bill! Those pics help a lot!

You're welcome, sir. I'd assume all the Pegaso chassis of the period were very similar.

Nov. '54 Road & Track (available on eBay) has a Z102 article, but I don't know if it has any underside pix...though I'd guess not.

Great projects, beautiful cars.

Edited April 20, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
CLARITY

[keyser]

Looking. Some nice detail shots here of LHD

https://noticias.coches.com/noticias-motor/pegaso-z-102-berlinetta-by-touring/193342

[Ace-Garageguy]

Here's a "barn find" Z102. They imply there's going to be a full restoration too, but I didn't chase down any more links.

https://www.musclecarszone.com/1000000-car-barn-find-in-california/

[MrObsessive]

5 minutes ago, keyser said:

Looking. Some nice detail shots here of LHD

https://noticias.coches.com/noticias-motor/pegaso-z-102-berlinetta-by-touring/193342

Thanks! The green car you showed......I saw that site the other day, and I got most of the pics they had posted. No undercarriage shots though, but from what I can see, that shouldn't be too hard to configure.

[keyser]

Lol. https://www.autopista.es/restauracion-pegaso-z102-saoutchik_29821_113/4029010.html

[MrObsessive]

25 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Here's a "barn find" Z102. They imply there's going to be a full restoration too, but I didn't chase down any more links.

https://www.musclecarszone.com/1000000-car-barn-find-in-california/

Thanks Bill! I watched the whole video and I was able to get screenshots of the Pegaso's transmission. That'll come in handy for future reference. I was searching for resto vids on the Pegaso a couple weeks ago, and all I saw was very quick vids of the engine running on a dyno stand, and a guy painting one.

I'm sure sooner or later one on a lift will turn up on the 'net somewhere.

[keyser]

Fun thread. 4 FV/Pegaso fans. Gramps, couple others not here yet. 
I’ll keep hunting. Ultimatecarpage didn’t have chassis but it had rear torsion bars and DeDion rear. Bill and my favorite, inboard brakes, but drums. Fun fact, had to pull motor to adjust valves. ??‍♂️
Id still love one. Comp spider had blower on it. Really pretty casting. 

[MrObsessive]

@keyserSomewhere buried in my vast stash, I have an unbuilt 1/43 scale Pegaso Spider kit. I think it's a '53? I can't even remember who made it, but I've had it probably close to 20 years now.

Pull the engine to adjust the valves?? Yikes!

I'll keep an eye on Ultimate Car Page......also Fantasy Junction is a good site for oddball rare cars like that too. ?