Have You Guys Seen These?!

[mikelo]

There is a whole series of these things. Some are better than others, but there is some real nice stuff in them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGWpblgrmfE...feature=channel

If the person is here that made these, my hat off to you, and would like to ask about the weathering you did.

Mike

[FujimiLover]

Nicely done, but why would you purposely build junk? Especially a junked General Lee? I do like the bullet-holed one with the dead guy hanging out! LOL! Need's a Robo Cop action figure next to it, maybe ED-209?

Edited April 8, 2009 by FujimiLover

[Guest Gramps-xrds]

Nicely done, but why would you purposely build junk? Especially a junked General Lee? I do like the bullet-holed one with the dead guy hanging out! LOL! Need's a Robo Cop action figure next to it, maybe ED-209?

Why would you purposely build junk. Well evidently you have never try to do it or you'd know why. It takes more skill and imagination to do than it takes to make a model w/ perfect paint and all the parts just right. To do a junker just right takes a real model master not just someone that assembles kits.

[RodBurNeR]

I don't completely agree on that Bill sorry.

I have seen some of the cleanest models built by some of the best in this hobby. I have never seen one junker that could compare with a shiny car. Two different worlds you are talking about, so I am not saying that junkers are not as good....just can't compare apples with cores.

I feel to say that it takes more imagination and skill to build a junker than it does to build a clean shiny car is ignorant. I have heard this arguement many times actually....I think until you have built a masterpeice of both subjects, you won't know which one was easier or more enjoyable and that's going to depend on the builder....not the audience.

2cents sorry....

Now if ya wanna talk about "assemblers" vs. "modelers".....

[Dragline]

Great background music and super weathering on all the cars. Oddly enough, the car with the bodies in it was the worst of the lot IMHO.

It took dilligence and vision to create such a boneyard, and until you have tackled such a project I'd hesititate to be critical.

EPIC might be to grand a word but I happen to think it is worthy of a display of this scale [no pun]. It also [if you must] be judged on its own merits. To say a fully detailed shiny car is more difficult might not neccesarily diminish this effort, but it's not apples to apples and the work involved can never be known till any one of us has taken such a task on.

BRAVO to Mr MO, whomever you might be.

My .02

Bob F

Edited April 8, 2009 by Dragline

[RodBurNeR]

My reply never meant that the work wasn't great.... I think he is master of his trade personally! I just don't think it's right to say it's harder and takes more imagination and talent to build a junker apposed to a clean build with shiny paint. There can be so much more than just paint to a shiny build. There are certain levels of "how much do you want to do".

I have never seen a more detailed and realistic build than this one as far as "junkers" go. I saw in person and frankly my pics suck , hard to even see it correctly.

Tell me how to say which is harder to build Both models are completely jaw droppers in detail and realism.

I don't have anything else to say.....just thought it should be recognized that shiny is just as much work and takes just as much imagination.....depending on how far you want to go.

Edited April 8, 2009 by awbcrazy

[Guest Gramps-xrds]

Quote) I feel to say that it takes more imagination and skill to build a junker than it does to build a clean shiny car is ignorant. I have heard this arguement many times actually....I think until you have built a masterpeice of both subjects, you won't know which one was easier or more enjoyable and that's going to depend on the builder....not the audience.

2cents sorry....

Bob I never meant to discredit anyone who builds show models. It takes skill to do both. Believe me I've tried both to the best of my ability and I've always found it easier to do shiny cars than it was to do an authentic looking junker. Anyone can just add some rust to a model but the guy that built the dio made the models look as real as I've seen and he deserves a lot of credit for the effort he put in them. I've been building since 1959 (primarily shinys) and until I tried to do a junker I too didn't realize just how difficult it was. It's not comparing apples to cores, it's comparing models. You can only go so far when building a shiny (Usually limited to the amount of after market stuff you can add) but when building a junker the possibilities are only limited by your imagination and skill. So drawing from my own experience I'll still say it's much harder to do great junkers than to do great shinies based on a modelers given abilities.

And that's my two cents.

Edited April 8, 2009 by Gramps-xrds

[old-hermit]

Here's another professional ruster only he does it in large scale.

[Foxer]

I don't think there's any argument here there are shiny and there are rusty models. All have versions from "HOLY COW!" to "that's great, but here's a way to make that chrome (rust) glitter".

That's a great junkyard dio.. he has studied rusted hulks well as each one tells a story. The fact that emotion was felt for a junked General Lee says a lot for the effect of his modeling!

[RyanSilva]

The guy who painted those, I believe was from canada. He use to sell all those cars in the videos...one by one on ebay a few years ago, some fetching from 30 dollars upwards to 180ish (give or take).

as for all the other comments.......er Il stay out of this one.

[Guest Davkin]

A model is a model, rusty or shiny. You can't make a general statement about wether one type of building style requires more or less talent than another. You have to have two specific models side by side to make a comparison, and even then the comparison is just between those two models. Any building style can be just as difficult and imaginative as any other, it's up to each builder as to how far he wants to take it.

David

[torinobradley]

Considering the last two builds I finished, one being a fully polished and primped Smoothster and the other being a beat-up, rusty, faded, chipped, repainted, worn and rebuilt hotrod flatbed, I would have to say both take lots of work. Many coats of primer, color coat and clear all polished to a mirror like shine with 6 sessions of sanding the entire surface, not to mention all the cleanup and detailing of the parts as opposed to actually making the model look old with all the coats of primer, paint, faded paint, wear, salt, rubber cement, paint, decals, wear, washes, rust, sanding, chipping, etc... They both have all the bolts and nuts in the right places, they both got wires and all the associated goodies. I got the same satisfaction of having such a shiny smooth car as I did with the beat-up junker rod.

Bottom line, they were both lots of work.

BTW, the messier my fingers got, the better the weathered model looked but the worse the shiny one looked...

I think what it comes down to is the details. You can make any car shiny or rusty, but does it look like it's supposed to? Are the details where they are supposed to be? Does it have the right engine/panels/bumpers/wires/etc... Do you see glue, paint flaws, out of scale items, items that just don't look right?

In my opinion, they are all apples, just different types...

[Chuck Most]

.....just thought it should be recognized that shiny is just as much work and takes just as much imagination.....depending on how far you want to go.

It IS just as much effort to build a "junker" as it is a "nice" car. All the time you DON'T spend polishing, ect., on the nice one, you spend weathering the junk one!

Now, in 1:1, NO QUESTION the shiny one is more work... with the junker all you had to do was wait a while.

Personally, I love junkers. I've driven junkers most of my life, I frankly can't relate to a beautiful, flawless, jaw-dropping car, and I really don't know if I ever want to own one- my models kind of reflect this.

[mikelo]

Wow, I never thought this would happen. I have a hard enough time just trying to finish a model let alone trying to say one way is more work than another. I think everyone has there own niche. I know a local club here that does military models and can weather the heck out of them, but they don't have a clue how to make paint shiney. It also works vice versa. I like how you can tell this guy did a lot a of research and not just smashed up kits to make them look junky. There is a lot of time in the diorama also. Some are better than others. Do check out the other videos. They are also good and show all different cars (I don't think I saw 1 car in 2 videos.). I love the corvettes in the one I posted. I was hoping this guy was here to ask him how he did some of the things he did.

A lot of work that turned out great for the purpose it was meant.

Mike

Edited April 9, 2009 by mikelo

[mr moto]

I know a good reason to build "junk".... IT'S FUN!! I've only done one and it's far from the best I've seen but it's worth doing some more of them in between the "shiny" builds.