Ed "Big Daddy" Roth '56 Ford F100 pickup

[eajonesgue]

This will be my WIP of this old Revell kit.  Some of the content has been moved from the forum post below. 

I will try to post progress each Sunday and will clean up the photos as best I can, they are all taken with my phone.

 

[eajonesgue]

The content below was taken from the post above

The truck was originally bought brand new by Ed Roth in 1956 and he painted it white with the red flames, pinstriping and some advertising information for his business.  The car was sold soon afterwards, repainted and then eventually sat for over 50 years.  After a few different ownership changes, the car was given to Galpin Motors to do the restoration, which was completed in 2017.

Below are three sites that have additional information, if you are interested.

Motor Trend Ed 'Big Daddy' Roth barn find

Kustomrama Ed Roth 1956 Ford truck

Jalopy Journal forum on Ed Roth's truck

[eajonesgue]

Further to my previous posting on this topic - Photos of the original truck are almost non-existent and in black and white, so I will be trying to recreate the restored car.  I only found one photo online of the restored engine bay, so there will be some 'artistic license' used throughout

My ambitious list of ideas to correct and detail this kit includes:

- wheels and tires from AMT 1953 Ford pickup (but not the hubcaps).  There does not seem to be any other parts that are usable.

- drum brake backing plates from a mold of the ones from the Tweedy Pie, and then cast in resin

- scratchbuilt leaf springs on all four corners.  The kit had 4 leaves (leafs?) and photos of some restored trucks have 8 leaves.

- poseable steering added, almost done

- a club member has printed three sets of painting masks as I hope to paint the flames instead of using the decals

- 3D printed universal joints and replace drive shaft with styrene rod

- Bestmodelcarparts provided gauges

- I haven't even thought about the doors yet

probably a few things I have missed

[TopherMcGinnis]

Interesting project. Are you going to paint it green like before the white paint? 

[eajonesgue]

Topher - I did read that the restoration did start by painting the car the original Ford green.  I may have a few panels that are green.

I will have a few postings of the progress.  The one mentioned before is about the exhaust manifold.  They are too long to match up with the heads.  I found that using a metal hacksaw blade in two cuts, was the perfect distance to shorten them.  I also added some aluminum craft wire pins to locate the parts on the heads.

Before removing the firewall, fender and front engine cover molded wires and bolt heads, they were marked and photographed.  This way, I will know how to add the details back.

[eajonesgue]

Some work on the suspension. Modified rear dampers.

New leaf springs - .020" (0.5 mm) by .060" (1.5 mm) styrene strips, .040" (1 mm diameter rod) and aluminum duct tape.

Radiator faces were also updated with some photoetched mesh.

[OldNYJim]

Nice work so far - and you did a great job on those leaf springs! 

Edited April 25 by OldNYJim

[eajonesgue]

A correction on my previous post - the leaf springs are 0.020" (0.5 mm) x 0.080" (2.0 mm)

Hard to see in the photo, but the handles/cranks on the door panels were chiseled off and replaced with resin pieces (before on the right, finished on the left). I believe these are from Replicas and Miniatures.  More update tomorrow.

 

[eajonesgue]

More updates.

There is quite a gap on both sides of the hood.  The passenger side was filled with 0.030" (0.75 mm) styrene strip, bent to follow the fender countour.  The driver side is not quite as bad and will be 0.020" (0.5 mm) strip and then they will be blended in.

 

[eajonesgue]

Drive shaft has been replaced with styrene rod and 3D printed universal joints added.  This will be painted in silver metallics to make is stand out a bit.

 

Radiator airbrushed with Tamiya decanted TS-14 gloss black and then a dark grey wash added so that the p/e radiator mesh is more visible.  You can also see one of the Meng nuts that are used to add detail to many of the parts.

 

[eajonesgue]

Here is the rear suspension so far - Meng bolt heads and nuts added to leaf springs, dampers and differential, brake lines added.

 

Front suspension so far.

 

[eajonesgue]

The taillights in the kit were chrome plated over white plastic.   A mold was made of the pair and then four pieces were cast in clear resin.  Once the rears are sanded smooth and polished, they will be painted clear red and mounted on styrene backing plates with bare metal foil.

 

[eajonesgue]

Not a lot of work this week, but here it is.

Added strip styrene to the right side fender.  Once dried, it was sanded down flush and then the gap was made equal.

Removed engraved "Thunderbird" on valve covers and then airbrushed with Alclad airframe aluminum were airbrushed. 

I only found one photo of the engine bay of the restored truck and am trying to recreate that.  As noted in the articles cited above, the original truck was painted a light green. Roth then painted the body white, added flames and pinstriping, but some parts were left green.  The restoration followed that same pattern.  A mixture of Tamiya X-2 white, with just a couple of drops of XS-28 park green was airbrushed on the firewall and some areas under the dashboard on the interior.

 

[TopherMcGinnis]

Reach out to Dave Shuten at Galpin and see if he'd be mind sending you some pictures of the engine compartment. 

[Zippi]

NIce looking start on this one Evan.  

[eajonesgue]

I did reach out to Galpin Auto Sports and will see what they respond.

The Revell instructions are to build the tailgate and the 'hinges' at the same time.  This looked to me to be tricky to smooth the seams and paint.  I glued the hinges on the rear of the bed, puttied and sanded smooth.  By trimming just a bit of the tailgate, and bending it slightly in the middle, it can slip into the hinge holes.  There is a bit of a sink area at the rear of the bed that also needed to be puttied (hard to see in these photos).

 

[eajonesgue]

The Revell kit is for a 'four on the floor' stick shift, whereas the restored truck is a 'three on the tree' shifter.  The photo shows the steering columns of the AMT '53 Ford F100 (bottom), the Revell kit (middle) and my scratchbuilt version with the shifter from the AMT kit (top)  Turn signal stalk is a piece of aluminum wire (20 gauge, 0.8 mm, 0.032" diameter) with a blob of superglue that was then sanded to shape.

[eajonesgue]

Masked the green on the firewall and airbrushed pure white.  Now comes the tricky part - painting the dashboard to replicate the graphics on the real car.

[eajonesgue]

Airbrushed Tamiya racing white in seats and door panels. These will be followed by flat clear to down down the shine.  These parts don't exactly match the restored truck, so I am using artistic license to modify.  Also in the photo are the fender wells in semi-gloss black (foreground) and the steering column in gloss black (right side)

[NOBLNG]

Nice work you are doing Evan to fix all the deficiencies in the kit pieces. I like your steering column.👍

[eajonesgue]

Not a lot of progress last week.  Hopefully, some paint will be put onto the body this week.

Inner front fenders were airbrushed decanted Tamiya pure white lacquer, then masked and airbrushed with Tamiya semi-gloss acrylic. 

The windshield glass had a couple of gaps in the 'weatherstripping'.  These were filled in with sheet styrene and once dried, will be sanded down so the windshield fit is better.  Also, in the photo, the windshield wipers have been removed and the side vent louvers have been filled in with putty.  It just looked like it was too much trouble to try to detail the vent louvers.

[Butter 1]

I like what you are trying to do here which is to build an accurate representation of Roth's pickup. I am also impressed with some of the detail work you have done so far. However the old Revell model has a few good parts in it, but the body, fenders and tailgate are so incorrect that it is about impossible to get an accurate 56 F100 out of it. There is an easier way.

Use the front and rear fenders, inner fenders, hood, tailgate and frame from the AMT 53 Ford F100.

Use the box from the Revell F1

Use the grill and cab from the Revell Foose FD100. (You can graft the back window from the AMT 53 Ford to get rid of the big window.

Use the engine,  front suspension, running boards with a little modification, and tail lights from the old Revell 56 Ford kit.

You obviously have the skills to do this by the excellent work you have done so far.

If you are interested, I built a replica of a 1:1  56 I owned using the above parts. I talked about what I did to build the model with Doug Whyte for his Model Car Muse channel on  U tube. The video is a couple years old.

 

 

[thatz4u]

1 hour ago, Butter 1 said:

I like what you are trying to do here which is to build an accurate representation of Roth's pickup. I am also impressed with some of the detail work you have done so far. However the old Revell model has a few good parts in it, but the body, fenders and tailgate are so incorrect that it is about impossible to get an accurate 56 F100 out of it. There is an easier way.

Use the front and rear fenders, inner fenders, hood, tailgate and frame from the AMT 53 Ford F100.

Use the box from the Revell F1

Use the grill and cab from the Revell Foose FD100. (You can graft the back window from the AMT 53 Ford to get rid of the big window.

Use the engine,  front suspension, running boards with a little modification, and tail lights from the old Revell 56 Ford kit.

You obviously have the skills to do this by the excellent work you have done so far.

If you are interested, I built a replica of a 1:1  56 I owned using the above parts. I talked about what I did to build the model with Doug Whyte for his Model Car Muse channel on  U tube. The video is a couple years old.

 

 

this way builds a more correct to scale F-100^^^^^^