Ford '60' flathead V8

[sidcharles]

does any aftermarket company make this engine?

search didn't help me; thx.

[Mark]

Haven't seen an aftermarket one; however, one version of Revell's 1/25 scale midget racer kit had a modified V8-60.  No transmission though, only an in/out box.

[sidcharles]

Q2: would a model A transmission be a passible substitute ?

i have seen a couple of those kits on the 'bay for around retail and they do have that dickensonian cutie trailer . . . 

[Mark]

The 1/25 scale 60 hp V8 ends up being about the same size as a 1/32 scale 85 hp V8.  The transmissions are about the same size relative to one another; that is, the 60 transmission is that much smaller than the "big" unit.  So, you'd have to find a 1/32 scale part, or scratch one proportionally smaller to work with the smaller engine.

[NOBLNG]

I was unaware of this engine. Here’s some interesting information on it. https://rodandstyle.com/blogs/rod-and-style-tech/ford-v8-60?

Edited Tuesday at 06:54 PM by NOBLNG

[sidcharles]

i thought it came into being with the '36 Ford. perhaps only an option & not its prime mover.  

this  is a good video (channel actually) which identifies some of the unique (at least to me) features:

 

[sidcharles]

the military guys seem to pull this stuff off:

GAZ-51 engine 1/35

not sure if pilfering an engine from one of these would work:

FORD civil car SERIES 1/35

[sidcharles]

3 hours ago, Mark said:

The 1/25 scale 60 hp V8 ends up being about the same size as a 1/32 scale 85 hp V8.  The transmissions are about the same size relative to one another; that is, the 60 transmission is that much smaller than the "big" unit.  So, you'd have to find a 1/32 scale part, or scratch one proportionally smaller to work with the smaller engine.

i've tied myself up with this arithmetic stuff on a regular basis for seven decades, so hopefully someone will say if this proportion is accurate.

1" in 1:25 scale = .04000"

1" in 1:35 scale = .02857"

(i understand the suggestion was for 1:32 scale; only looking for a starting point here)

difference between .04000 - .02857 =    .01143

per cent of difference (using online conversion) = 33.3% difference

Percentage Difference Calculator

so could i conclude 1:35 scale is one third smaller than 1:25?

and then if i could get some real world dimensions of similar components, i would be able to determine their suitability?

NOTE: perhaps the long way round, but this information would help with any component comparison, not just an engine.

some learned from playing with scales: a 1:24 scale vehicle is 8x the volume of a 1:48 scale vehicle of like type.

(2x wide/ 2x long/ 2x high)

 

[Mark]

47 minutes ago, sidcharles said:

i thought it came into being with the '36 Ford. perhaps only an option & not its prime mover.  

this  is a good video (channel actually) which identifies some of the unique (at least to me) features:

 

I believe it was '37 through '40 in the USA, though it lived on a lot longer elsewhere.  It was probably a "delete option" here, meaning you got the 85 hp engine unless you specifically ordered the 60.  The 60 brought with it a few unique parts, like the lightweight tubular front axle on 60 equipped 1937 cars that is highly sought after.

I would get some good images of a 60 with transmission attached, then scratchbuild the thing.  It's basically a miniature version of the regular unit, and those don't seem to be terribly complicated in terms of shapes needed to duplicate it in scale.  I want to stick one of those engines in an Anglia or Thames, so when that happens I'll probably scratch the thing.

[sidcharles]

DISCLAIMER _ THIS IS NOT MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL!!!!

after posting i reread it, and don't want anyone to think i'm sleazing in on this fellow's action.

i am not intimidated with the work or tools involved in such an endeavor, but rather my naïveté of mechanical things in general. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:36 AM by sidcharles

[sidcharles]

the rabbit hole is getting deeper:

 

[Bainford]

14 hours ago, sidcharles said:

i've tied myself up with this arithmetic stuff on a regular basis for seven decades, so hopefully someone will say if this proportion is accurate.

1" in 1:25 scale = .04000"

1" in 1:35 scale = .02857"

(i understand the suggestion was for 1:32 scale; only looking for a starting point here)

difference between .04000 - .02857 =    .01143

per cent of difference (using online conversion) = 33.3% difference

Percentage Difference Calculator

so could i conclude 1:35 scale is one third smaller than 1:25?

and then if i could get some real world dimensions of similar components, i would be able to determine their suitability?

NOTE: perhaps the long way round, but this information would help with any component comparison, not just an engine.

some learned from playing with scales: a 1:24 scale vehicle is 8x the volume of a 1:48 scale vehicle of like type.

(2x wide/ 2x long/ 2x high)

 

Your math is sound, but knock off a couple decimal places to keep the numbers reasonable. It is pointless to go beyond three decimal places (thousandths) when working in inches.

[sidcharles]

duly noted!