Olskoolrodder Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 LOL,went on eVilbay yesterday,found 2 ending yesterday,one a bidder,the other a buy it now. I bid on the blck bidder first,but when it went past what the B.I.N. one shipped for,I bought it then. I probably won't want to pull it's wheels off though...looks just like my 1:1,I need another (and thus it begins,LOL)
Tony T Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 I've always loved Mustangs...great to have more than one thread to post them all in...love seeing 1:1s you guys have...and the models!
Olskoolrodder Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks,Tony ,and me too (loved Mustangs always)...I waited WAY too long to buy my second one (21 years,LOL!)
whale392 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Posted September 22, 2011 Alright, group picture here (OK, maybe a few pictures). These are just what is sitting on my kitchen table at the moment, not counting what are also on the bedroom desk or in the closet. , , , , Well, those are the 5 currently occupying my time; the 1983 GLX vert for this CBP, the 1991GT conversion (also for this CBP), a Faleen (as the wheels are 6 spoke versus 5, the body molding is GT versus LX, and the front end is Cobra...even though I am working on the correct Saleen lower), an 85 SVO with 2008 Bullitt wheels, and my current 1983 T-Top coupe project in its' very infancy.
whale392 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Posted September 22, 2011 Now, just the T-Top Coupe by her lonesome.........she isn't anywhere near ready for the FIRST coat of primer yet. , , All comments are welcome, and encouraged. I am currently working on getting new Quarter Window (Gill) Spats made as the only available units (in 1/24th) are Hatchback units. This thing has been fighting me even just to this stage, but I will press on. Being a poor scratch-builder doesn't help my cause any either! looks like I will be re-doing the quarter window cases as well, as they broke apart on me when I dry-installed the top for test-fitting. I have more pics of all the cuts/stages so far, if anyone really cares to look through them.
GTMust Posted September 22, 2011 Posted September 22, 2011 Hi Brad....... Finally get to see all those Foxes that you've been teasing us with.... and all at the same time, too! What happened to your overseas trip? Have you already gone and come back? I'm looking forward to more of your T-top build..... I made some clear styrene tops for mine but had problems glueing the outer edge to the clear plastic..... it's an edge to edge situation and a very weak joint. (I cut the remains of the roof to get the edge pieces, if you follow my drift.) I couldn't make them in one piece from clear styrene due to the compound curves. Monogram's Camaro Z28 and '78 Trans Am kits have smoked T-Tops in them........ hmmmm...... wonder if they could be modified to fit? If you find a way to create yours..... I'll be watching... and trying to get some of my 1/32 scale antique and vintage cars and diarama builds for my museum finished...... so I can get back to a couple of Foxes! But I'll still be watching this and the SN95 threads from "behind the scenes", Good to see so many other Mustang guys joining in now. I have a few SN95 kits waiting for me as well.... I don't think I have enough years left!!! Tony
whale392 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Posted September 22, 2011 Hey Tony, thanks for the encouraging words. I know what you mean on the T-Top situation, as I too use the roof edges as T-Top edges (pretty much how Cars & Concepts did it when they converted these cars), but with a slight twist. Instead of butting the glass right up to the edge, make a notch into the edge the entire length (#11 blade and a tape-line to hold the edge). Then, Micro Krystal Klear glue the glass into the notch you just made (be sure to cut your glass pattern a hare long to provide fitment/trimming length). This adds considerable strength to the glass/edge union.
Olskoolrodder Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 OK...that sinks it-despite that I'm dragging feet on getting going back to building,AND that there's at least four projects needing done (started,LOL),I NEED to get me a Fox project going soon That sucks about the issues you're having,Brother if I had that kind of skill you know I'd offer to help out (I don't,LOL,i's beyond my reach,let alone comfort zone). They're ALL kool projects,and inspiring to me
whale392 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Posted September 23, 2011 Thanks Stephen. I think I have got a handle on the quarter window issue now (I am making completely new frames and gluing them to a stiffener with a perimeter lip. That way, when I attach them to the body, they will have 270* of glue joint.
Olskoolrodder Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Sounds like an ice cream cone (you got it licked) then Looking forward to seeing it,my friend
whale392 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Posted September 24, 2011 Thanks guys; I will be getting more done tonight. to me, even working directly from measurements, the rear roof section looks to be to far slanted forward. I will have to get in there and square it up before I go too much further. Hopefully, I can have this body in primer (the first coat anyway) for Toledo NNL (October 8th).
Abell82 Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 They all look very good Brad! Personally I'd like to finish this one... But we all know how that goes...
whale392 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Posted September 24, 2011 Converted from an SVO I see, Jason! What is stopping you from finishing?
Olskoolrodder Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) That one deserves to be finished! Looks sweet I have some Fox Chassis kits coming in soon (from trades and a bit from eBay...SHHHH.don't tell the wife! ),I'd like to get on one (or 3..) soon myself! Edited September 25, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
Olskoolrodder Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Converted from an SVO I see, Jason! What's the give-away? Is it that there's no side skirts from the ground effects (that was my first thought)? I ask because while peruesing eBay and other sources,I can't remember the differences between the Revell-o-Gram kits (memory is an issue with my injuries from 2001),and knowing the diff's would help me choose more wisely,LOL! (I DO remember not enjoying the build of one of those AMT '87-90 GT kits,though I don't remember why...) I have a gluebomb of a 1:24 Monogram SVO that's missing parts that I had scored in a trade as "extra stuff" that had been thrown in for "boot"...I had wondered if one could make a '87-93 GT or LX with it's body+another's nose/tail (or even a 1:24 stock GT hardtop using the SVO body and one of Monogram's ragtop GT kits...) Edited September 25, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
whale392 Posted September 25, 2011 Author Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Tony, The give-away for me (Jason I am sure will set me straight though!) is the shape of the doors and the SVO side spats (quarter window gills) and the lower rocker spats just in front of the rear wheel well openings (look closely, they appear to still be there). The trunk lid spoiler was reshaped (rounded) and filled to make the late-84 through 86 LX-GT/87-93LX hatch spoiler, and the 88-92 (kitted form anyway, the nose itself went from 87-93) nose and hood were added with the front header panel from the SVO body removed. You can make a better (note I did not say completely accurate) 87-93 GT by starting with the SVO, but replacing the quarter window area and hatch with that from a 1993 Cobra (if you want your 1991-93GT to be 'more correct', use the 1993 Cobra steering wheel as well) and the lower door/sill treatment from a GT convertible. Then, you would be best served to get the trunklid spoiler from an AMT 1/25th GT and stretch/reshape it to fit the 1/24th hatch. Lots of work. There are other ways, but the SVO has better body shape to start. Personally, and IF I ever do another GT conversion, I will again start with the 1993 Cobra body as a base for the conversion, add the SVO upper door area to it, graft the GT Convertible rear bumper and just the lower side sill to it. I will shave the behind-the-door portion of the Cobra body kit and scratch-build my own fake cooling duct. hopefully, I will already have my modified GT trunklid spoiler cast in resin, so I could just grab one up and drop it onto the build. Same with the small headrests and the correct steering column shape (both of which I am waiting to have cast in resin). Use the 1991GT convertible (Monogram original issue, same with the 1992GT convertible) Pony wheels and taillight panel. As to making an LX, Tony. I have theories and build parts lists, but you would have quite a bit of scratch building to do to get it correct. Best to start with the earlier 1979 Cobra kit, use parts from the various GT convertible kits, and be ready to heavily modify/scrathbuild the nose and taillights. Edited September 25, 2011 by whale392
Olskoolrodder Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Yeah,I see some of it now (most notibly the quarter windows and the bits in front of the rear wheelwell). Still,makes for a really nice (if technically inaccurate) conversion to my eye. If it's a lot of hassle/trouble,please don't,but otherwise I wouldn't mind that parts list myself I just scored these off eBay (will be Paypalling the dude after making a deposit tomorrow,LOL),NIB. My Dad had an '81 hatchback (2.3L/4 speed) about the time I had my last Mustang before the current one I have now (he drove it daily to work,he also bought TWO LX's new in '88,both that medium blue metallic color-1 a 5.0L 5 spd,the other a 2.3L 5 spd,his and hers). That's the car I learned to drive on (my '79 was my second car at 17,he had that '81 from '81-90),and I thought it'd be neat to build a semi-replica of it,assuming I can source a 2.3L/5 speed in 1:25. Know anything about these kits (inaccuracies,building snafu's,etc)? I STILL need to score myself another '79 Indy car (one of my grail kits). I had the Monogram one in the old house but it melted. Watching a couple on eBay right now. Knowing the Monogram is the 1:24 and the MPC a 1:25,what are the other diff's between them (one's a t-top,one's a sunroof,one has a 2.3L turbo the other a 302...but which is which? I never got around to building mine,and did I mention about my memory? LOL)....if you don't mind my picking your brain a bit. Also,I passed on a Monogram '84 GLX ragtop kit that went pretty cheap NIB...should I have (instead of one of these I mean)? LOL,sorry! Edited September 25, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
whale392 Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) The two you just got are the same kit with different decals. Same options, same build-up. As to the MPC/Monogram question.........everything is different between the two kits. The MPC Pace car has the Turbo4 and V8 option, the Monogram has just the V8. The MPC has the roof molded smooth with the cut lines for making it into a T-Top cast into the inside (you will see this in your MPC kits), the Monogram kit is a smooth roof. If you look at the chassis from any of the later Monogram (now Revell in re-issues) 1/24th kits, it is an exact copy of their Pace Car/Cobra issue. I have 5 of the Convertible 83-84 GLXs you mention, Stephen. I am ALWAYS looking for more at a reasonable price. To me, they are a GREAT starting point for many conversions (look at my T-Top Coupe for example). They are also good, when mixed with the roof from the Pace/Cobra to become a GLX/LX/GT hatch, or with some mods a good base for an 87-93LX Hatch. DO NOT be afraid to get the 83-84 verts......I recommend them (and may even be bidding against you sometime! ) Edited September 26, 2011 by whale392
Abell82 Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) The two you just got are the same kit with different decals. Same options, same build-up. As to the MPC/Monogram question.........everything is different between the two kits. The MPC Pace car has the Turbo4 and V8 option, the Monogram has just the V8. The MPC has the roof molded smooth with the cut lines for making it into a T-Top cast into the inside (you will see this in your MPC kits), the Monogram kit is a smooth roof. If you look at the chassis from any of the later Monogram (now Revell in re-issues) 1/24th kits, it is an exact copy of their Pace Car/Cobra issue. ... Actually the Monogram Pace Car IS a sunroof car. Monogram didn't fill in the sunroof until the SVO. And the chassis while similar has been changed through the years. Look at the area around the fuel tank.... And just an FYI the Convertible GT taillights are taller then ALL other kitted taillights. As for the black car above, it is an SVO body that was given to me. Unfortunately I only got the body, and the front bumper, and a few other parts. This was years ago. At the time SVO kits were only available in red plastic and very hard to find. It is in no way meant to represent an 87-93 GT. Instead it represents something much more sinister. There is one important detail you missed Brad. And it is a Cobra front bumper. Notice there are no scoops on the side? You may not be able to tell from the pic, but it does have Convertible mirrors. (from the Cobra kit) The 1993 Cobra body that gave up the rest of it's kit parts... It actually did become the test mule for the first (of 3 ) lx hatch conversion(s).... true story. Edited September 26, 2011 by Abell82
Olskoolrodder Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) The two you just got are the same kit with different decals. Same options, same build-up. As to the MPC/Monogram question.........everything is different between the two kits. The MPC Pace car has the Turbo4 and V8 option, the Monogram has just the V8. The MPC has the roof molded smooth with the cut lines for making it into a T-Top cast into the inside (you will see this in your MPC kits), the Monogram kit is a smooth roof. If you look at the chassis from any of the later Monogram (now Revell in re-issues) 1/24th kits, it is an exact copy of their Pace Car/Cobra issue. I have 5 of the Convertible 83-84 GLXs you mention, Stephen. I am ALWAYS looking for more at a reasonable price. To me, they are a GREAT starting point for many conversions (look at my T-Top Coupe for example). They are also good, when mixed with the roof from the Pace/Cobra to become a GLX/LX/GT hatch, or with some mods a good base for an 87-93LX Hatch. DO NOT be afraid to get the 83-84 verts......I recommend them (and may even be bidding against you sometime! ) That's what I had figured (same kit diff decals) Thanks for the info on the differences between the MPC and Monogram Pacer's. I had the Monogram like I said,no longer though. I'll be watching for em both on eBay as I have a little extra $ (that's not too often,BTW,LMBO!). Man,I wish I'd have bought it now (the GLX ragtop),LOL! And happy bidding,I don't mind losing to a friend,LOL,but hate it just thinking about it going to someone who'd never build it,just sit it on a shelf collecting dust,LOL,that'd just be...wrong Edited September 26, 2011 by Olskoolrodder
Eric Stone Posted September 26, 2011 Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) There was a cheap 84 convertible on eBay the past few days I was interested in, but didn't bid on. Edited September 26, 2011 by Eric Stone
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