Aaronw Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 On 12/16/2010 at 10:56 PM, sjordan2 said: I don't get this. Was Mark "the builder" – you don't say – and what does this have to do with you calling him out? I am agreeing with him, the unfortunate part is that what he is saying is true. Too many people do not really want criticism, constructive or otherwise. As far as I know that particular builder is not on this site, but similar things occur here frequently. I specifically chose an example from another site so I don't single out anyone here.
davyou5 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 On 12/16/2010 at 12:30 PM, Bluesman Mark said: Perhaps if more people learned to take such constructive criticism in the positive spirit it's offered in, like those modelers that entered Mark's contest did, instead of taking any comment that isn't 100% positive as some kind of slight against them or attempt to bash them, they could become better builders. I have to agree with mark on this, That's why I am here, if someone wants up and Critique my model, then I will welcome it, That's how I understand that I will learn to DO and BE better than I am. I have one build that I am almost completely finished with, a few minor touches then boom, I will be satisfied with it, if someone wants too point out the good and the bad, SO BE IT!.... Teach me were I need to improve!.. and I will take it as that .
2002p51 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 On 12/16/2010 at 10:24 PM, Aaronw said: Unfortunately I've seen Mark's comments in action far to often. One that comes to mind was a very nice diorama of a snow plow in action. The one issue was the snow was flat and the area the plow had gone through was just cut out like you would see with a shovel. Now snow plows don't work this way, you get a distinctive berm and a "bow wave" off of a moving plow, even a slow moving plow. The model was very well built, the diorama features were well thought out and implimented except for the bit I mentioned. I complemeted the builder, and suggested as a minor improvement that the snow be built up to the one side and that a small wave of snow be added coming off the plow. The reply from the builder and a small group of followers was that I didn't know what I was talking about, the diorama was perfect as is. The builder wasn't quite rude in his reply, but obviously didn't take the comments as intended, several of the others were less than polite. I once had a near identical experience with a NASCAR model that had tire marks all down the side of his car. Some were too high to be plausible, and some were way too low. I mentioned that fact and was basically told that I was full of ***** and I should just shut up.
Jantrix Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 On 12/17/2010 at 2:24 PM, 2002p51 said: I once had a near identical experience with a NASCAR model that had tire marks all down the side of his car. Some were too high to be plausible, and some were way too low. I mentioned that fact and was basically told that I was full of ***** and I should just shut up. I remember this. But when you think about it, all the builder did was make himself look like a jerk. You should not let people like this stop you from trying to help other builders.
slapshot Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Maybe we should create a elected panel of our best builders ( we all know who they are )to offer constructive criticism on our models. If you would like to have your model critiqued in a constructive way than post on a sticky created for this purpose. We could rotate the the panel by elections annually. If not than you can still post your builds in the normal venues.I know this is a rough idea And would need some adjusting. Just my two cents.
davyou5 Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 On 12/20/2010 at 8:28 PM, slapshot said: Maybe we should create a elected panel of our best builders ( we all know who they are )to offer constructive criticism on our models. If you would like to have your model critiqued in a constructive way than post on a sticky created for this purpose. We could rotate the the panel by elections annually. If not than you can still post your builds in the normal venues.I know this is a rough idea And would need some adjusting. Just my two cents. Now that is something to think about, actually it is a good idea, at least for those who want it, that would be another way for a builder to grow and learn in the process. Trouble is most of the Best here only have a certain amount of time in which they will spend on this site, that is unless one is willing to wait for the results. What does everyone else think about this?
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