steve7119 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Ok,I started this in the on the workbench thread, but it seems to be more appropriate here. I haven't done much with it yet, but I got some parts and have to share them with you! Got some axle center sections so there has been progress.http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee406/steve7119/DavesGrillWork05-28-11.jpg" /> I was lamenting to a buddy of mine that I was having trouble figuring out how do make the correct grill for this truck since the model is of a 50-59 Jeep. He told me he thought he could help, he works in manufacturing, specifically, this is the kind of thing he does for a living. Sent him a photo, we got together with the measurements on his CAD program and 2 weeks later this is what he gave me back! I asked him for a master that I could cast in resin since I have several versions of this truck I want to do. He was talking about laser cutting something from plastic so I thought, great, the back will be flat and the grill bars will be strong enough to cast in resin. Needles to say, I have to take this truck up a notch. I can now recreate the inside of the grill and engine compartment just as it is in 1:1. Thanks for looking, Comments are welcome! Edited February 20, 2012 by steve7119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 shucks, none of the photos turned out right. on the right side of the picture with the grill pieces is a forming jig to use to get the correct angles in the right places on the flat grill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeffs396 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Nice work your friend did for you Steve! If you just cut out the entire "V" shaped grille from the resin frontend, you could use the flat metal piece that your friend so accurately cut to really replicate your 1:1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Very, very cool. That flat grille came out nicely. Looks like a pretty decent little kit. I might pick one of those up. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 A little Progress. Grew a pair and started some cust. Cut the inner fendrs off the chassis, they were not correct for the 1:1, but they were used to help locate the cab on the chassis at the correct height so I will have to come up with another method for that. the 1:1 has a mount for the front of the cab/fender unit at the bottom of the radiator support, Think I will try to do that. I was planning to add that front crossmember anyway Added a brace to the underside of the cab fenders in preparation for cutting the grill out. Thanks for looing comments are always welcome. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Got a little work done . Seems like life has been getting in the way all summer. Cut out the entire front section between the fenders, filed a mounting flange the thickness of the new piece and replaced the whole front end. Although I think it might be a bit thick, I am going to add a radiator support behind this grill to replicate the 1:1 . .010 sheet should be enough for the support and help hold the whole front end together. Now another dilemma; 1:1 has taken a different track for the power plant. Was planning on an old school 350 Chev but Now an thinking more toward an LS motor. I think I will have an easier time finding the trans and transfer case for the newer power plant than trying to hunt up the older pieces. Anyone know where I can find a decent LS engine in scale? Thinking one of the newer pick up kits might have what I need, Thanks for looking! As always, comments are always welcome. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffs396 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Steve, the LS engines are in several kits, so depending on which transmission you want, that'll determine which kit to grab. Revell '99 Siverados have a nice LS with the 4L60E auto tranny. Revell SSR has the same combo, but from different tooling! AMT and Revell '98-up Camaro/Firebird have LS/6-speed manual combos AMT and Revell '97-up Corvettes have LS V8s, but have the rear-mounted transaxle, so you'd have to source your own tranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thanks Jeff, I think trucks should have manual trans, I will have to look for the Camaro kit. How is the CJ-8 Scrambler coming? Ready for resin yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjim Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 The grill looks excellent! Is that a kit or a resin body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 The body is a resin kit from Resin Motor Replicas. I think there is a link to the site in the thread I started with this project on the workbench. Check out the website, he has a lot of stuff that you can't find anywhere else. This kit is of a '50-'59 model, so I have to make some changes to make it look like a '48. the biggest change is the grill. there are a few other minor differences between the years but the basic body stayed the same through the entire production run of the truck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Looking good, good detailing so far . . . keep it going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hd2500gmc Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Nice work the grill looks great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 O man, I keep coming back to this one hoping you've made a bit more progress. I hope you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Thanks everyone for your comments and support! Sorry for the slow progress. Got a radiator support made, but can't install that until i get a radiator and decide where the engine is gonna sit in the chassis. I did get a couple kits with LS engines and decided on the 99 Silverado engine. BUT, can't leave well enough alone, the intake isn't right for what I have in mind so I started to carve a copy of the dual Quad offered for 1:1 LS engines by Edelbrock. Still debating dual quad or tri-power....and I have to come up with a bell housing, trans and transfer case....Lots of work to do and not enough time in the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Sorry, no pictures to post, But there is progress to report. 1st attempt to carve an intake for the LS was a failure.....uh....we will call it a learning experience on how not to make an intake. I did get a bell housing carved out of wax and a mold made. Haven't poured yet sincethe molds I need to pour do not use enough resin to ensure a correct ratio. Instructions say half an ounce minimum, and I am not there yet. Need to make a couple molds for wheels so I will get there soon. Hoping to be able to post some pics this weekend. I am just starting with the resin copies, so maybe I am being too litteral with the amounts. Can you pour smaller amounts and still get good results? Thanks for looking, all comments are welcome. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 New Photos and progress (even bad progress) to report. Thought I was had made great progress and was ready to post some photos of the completed drive train but instead I learned a new lesson last weekend...i was trying to replicate a later model transmission. New Venture 4500. Had the thing pretty well done. Not perfect, but obviously not the muncie 4spd I started with. Then I got the idea that since I wanted to cast it so I could use just the transmission, I had to fill in the voids in the bellhousing and transmission.....short version is that I tried to use liquid glue to melt scrap plastic to fill the void. didn't work out too well. too much of the liquid I figure since it made the whole thing soft. Managed to save the tailstock, but the rest was trash. Got online and ordered this great looking bell housing from Scenes Unlimited. It arrived today so I can start over with the Transmission. Last photo is of my start at an Atlas Transfer case. got the basic case shape pretty good i think, and working on all the rest of the added shapes. Got an intake for the LS started too, so that part is coming together also. Honey do list is caught up for the time being so I am hoping to get more time in the workshop. Thanks for looking, as always comments are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Got the intake manifold made, now the question. that would only be throttle bodies I had originally wanted this to be a tri-power. But I do like the fuel injection so I am thinking about keeping the LS style fuel injection and adding the 3 "carbs" that would only be throttle bodies! One of the issues with the original 3 dueces was the difficulty in getting and keeping them tuned. With the advances in computerized controls we should be able to make this work right? What do you think? Comments please, thanks for looking. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrux Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Well, you would definitely have to have a custom tune for a real vehicle as I don't think any manufacturer ever built a multi-TB setup. For going with a twi-TB setup, it would really only be practical with a TBI-type setup as most other FI engines would have injectors for each cylinder. Then again, I suppose it might be possible to have your injectors and link up three TBs for air intake only just like carbs were linked... hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 I thought about a tri TBI set up too. with the right computer tune it should work the same as a Tri carb, but with better and more consistant control. Not sure if the individual injectors and 3 throttle bodies would work in 1:1. Like you said, none of the manufacturers have ever done it and the aftermarket only does multi carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Just foud a website that advertises 6 pack fuel injection. Cant tell for sure if it is TBI or individual injectors. Looks to be designed for mopar applicaitons F and B throttle bodies is the site. I will have to call them and get the scoop so I can make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchey Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I didn't read all of them .BUT to be 48 needs flat grille. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpier Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 for those of us who might be internet challenged, are there clickable links for the resin kit & grille manufacturer? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Thanks for your comments everyone, The Fuel Injection I found looks to be for Chrysler products. Haven't been able to talk to them yet but with the photos on the website, it looks to be indvidual injectors, not a throttle body injection. Buchey, In that case the title for the truck in my yard is wrong. This build is based on my 1:1 project. I have the real truck. My research has shown that at the time, a title wasn't issued until the vehicle sold. If my truck was a leftover '47 it would have been sold and titled as a '48. I don't think Willys made that many changes from year to year though. For the most part they only made minor cosmetic changes year to year and major changes about every 10 years. I have the differences in my notes someplace. At any rate, the grill on my truck is not flat, but has a "peak" to it. sticks out about 3 inches. I can post photos if you would like. Southpier, I am not that tech savy either but here goes: The truck is from RMR resin. www.frewebs.com/rmrresin/nf125.htm Unfortunatley the grill is not available from anyone. I am fortunate to have a good friend with mad skills who likes a challenge. He started with a description and photos, a CAD program and extra time at work. They are not available commercially. If I could figure out a way to duplcate them without a laser cutting tool, I would certainly do so Edited January 15, 2012 by steve7119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve7119 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Looks like I lost some photos in this thread. Had some issues with Photobucket today. Got the transmission done today! I wanted a more up to date transmission to go with the LS engine that is the powerplant for this project so I am trying to replicate an NV 4500 5 speed manual. Here are some photos of the original followed by what I managed to come up with. My version Thanks for looking, comments welcome! Let me know how I did. Made a little progress with the chassis too, but nothing photo worthy right now. Steve Edited February 20, 2012 by steve7119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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