62 Catalina black interior pics?

[noname]

Hello folks. I'm building a 62 Catalina and was planning on painting it black. I was planning on having a black interior and from what I gather that was an optional colour. But after spending some time on Google, I just can't find a picture of a 62 Catalina with black interior. If anybody has a picture or two they could share I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

[charlie8575]

Matt,

From the research I've done, black wasn't a factory option. Your basic choices were blue, red, green, aqua and fawn, which was a light golden-beige color.

Here are some basic samples of the various interiors. Remember that the kit uses the vinyl trim, but this will give you the basic idea. The blue/blue/white interior in one of these links, as well as the red/maroon/black interior should be your baic painting guide.

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/features/hppp_0810_1962_pontiac_catalina_super_duty/photo_12.html (blue interior)

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/pontiac/catalina/1234799.html (red)

http://bringatrailer.com/2007/03/28/1962-pontiac-catalina-421-super-duty-clone/ (fawn/white)

http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehicles/ccrp_0806_1962_pontiac_catalina/photo_12.html (another blue interior, good close-ups.)

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1962_Pontiac_Catalina_139345128 (fawn cloth; good close-ups of door panels.)

http://www.lemonfree.com/5721dca47ca5dcea2fa57c2929d54fb3.html-1 (green)

http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/531030.html (red cloth.)

Good luck.

Charlie Larkin

[noname]

Thanks Charlie, I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Here is a link I'd like you to go to if you would. At the very bottom is interior colours. In the right hand column they list a "Velvet Black (textured)". Like I say, I can't find any pictures anywhere of a Catalina with black interior. What do you make of this? Does this list represent the colour of the painted metal parts of the interior do you think?

http://www.oldride.com/library/1962_pontiac_catalina.html

Thanks, Matt

[walt francis]

This is my 62 catalina I did in Triple Black

More Pics at the link http://s212.photobuc...!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20

[charlie8575]

Thanks Charlie, I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Here is a link I'd like you to go to if you would. At the very bottom is interior colours. In the right hand column they list a "Velvet Black (textured)". Like I say, I can't find any pictures anywhere of a Catalina with black interior. What do you make of this? Does this list represent the colour of the painted metal parts of the interior do you think?

http://www.oldride.c...c_catalina.html

Thanks, Matt

Hi, Matt.

Frequently, many parts inside a car were painted flat or semi-gloss black, regardless of the interior color. Things like the inside of the cowl, certain interior mechanical fittings and the like.

I have one other place I can ask for some guidance on the interior colors. I'll post the question now and as soon as I have an answer, I'll let you know.

Charlie Larkin

[noname]

Thanks for the pics. Walt.

Thanks alot Charlie, I appreciate the help. I prefer to get things factory correct if possible. I don't want to paint my interior black if it wasn't available on the 1:1 cars. Look forward to your reply.

Matt

[charlie8575]

With some degree of luck, I'll have an answer within the next day or two. In the interim, I'll continue to do some digging and see what I can find on my own.

Researching cars....all the research techniques I learned in my paralegal class are paying off!

Now if I just had a paying job with it right now..... Soon, very soon...

Charlie Larkin

[noname]

Yes, the research can be difficult at times. I know I can't afford to get books on every car I build.

I figure they either did not do a Catalina with black interior or it was somewhat rare. I've already got part of the interior for my Catalina painted black. If it turns out wrong I'll just have to strip it.

[my66s55]

Velvet black is listed as an interior color for 1962 on this website at the bottom of the page: http://www.oldride.c...c_catalina.html so it was available.

[charlie8575]

Hi, Matt.

My sources have come through.

e-Mail me your e-Mail address and I'll send you the information I have; it's in .pdf form.

Charlie Larkin

[von Zipper]

So what's the verdict ??? Was a black interior offered on a 1962 Catalina ?-Chris

[charlie8575]

So what's the verdict ??? Was a black interior offered on a 1962 Catalina ?-Chris

The black interior was only available on the Grand Prix. I saw suggested by one guy that Grenadier Red with a black interior would make a most striking combination. I must say I agree, as that's a nice, deep cherry color, as opposed to the more tomato red we'd see in later years.

I also remember seeing a Grand Prix in silver with a black interior, and that was a rather nice-looking car, too.

One associate of mine was nice enough to share the excerpts from the Master Parts Catalog; if I could figure out how to attach a .pdf to this post, I'd be happy to do so.

Charlie Larkin

Edit: re-examining the MPC data shows black was also available on the Bonneville, with the convertible using leather trim.

Edited October 17, 2011 by charlie8575

[noname]

Charlie was kind enough to send me the PDF he mentioned above. It doesn't list a black for the Catalina. I've looked quite a bit on Google and haven't found a Catalina with black interior.

I don't know if we can rely on the list on the Oldride website. It titles this list "paint code". We generally don't paint upholstery. So maybe they are talking about the actual colour of the sheet metal of the interior or something. I don't know, but you'd think they would have called it fabric colour or something instead of interior paint chips.

Edited October 17, 2011 by noname

[charlie8575]

Ah....now I see.

Velvet Black was the exterior paint color. Available on all models. And I must say, black looks especially nice on these cars; Matt made a good pick.

As I said before, some interior bits and pieces might have been s/g black, this was often the case with GM. The black would also have been used on GPs with black interiors for parts that would normally have been color-coordinated with the upholstery, like the window frames and the dash.

Charlie Larkin

[noname]

To make things a little more complicated, I've noticed some cars have different doorskins and seats. The AMT kit had the seat covers with vertical grooves but the doorskins are the ones without the vertal lines. And I also noticed one car with red interior with a black dash and another with a red dash.

[charlie8575]

To make things a little more complicated, I've noticed some cars have different doorskins and seats. The AMT kit had the seat covers with vertical grooves but the doorskins are the ones without the vertal lines. And I also noticed one car with red interior with a black dash and another with a red dash.

Still waiting for clarification on that. The fancier trim like the kit depicts might actually have been a Bonneville interior, retro-fitted to Catalinas (which I guess was pretty common because it's so nice-looking,) as soon as I have further information, I'll pass it along. I also see that a lot of the plainer upholstery pattern is cloth, which is quite believable, the vinyl, being a more flexible material, both literally, and design-wise, opened itself up to more creative expressions.

Charlie Larkin

Edited October 17, 2011 by charlie8575

[Brett Barrow]

FWIW, I think the 62 Cat looks killer in black with the red 3-tone interior.

All-black interiors really didn't become popular until the muscle-car era.

[noname]

That is about what I was thinking Brett. The red interior is the most likely candidate for the black.

Charlie, maybe you could choose different doorskin and seat combos. Who knows. I wasn't even thought of in 62.

[noname]

Dave, I'm not too worried about a build being 100% accurate anyway. But I think I'll go with red interior to be on the safe side. Makes the model look a little more interesting too. Unless I opt for another colour other than black. Then I suppose a blue interior or other may go better with say a white or silver body. I wanted to make a Super Stocker but it is probably going to be hard to find white decals. Man I need to get me some decal paper one of these days.

[noname]

I have this aweful thing with black. I want to see everything painted black with black steelies. But what doesn't look good in black?

I have seen some pics of Catalinas painted some not so popular colours and they all look sharp. It's just a nice body style.

As far as silver and white go, they both look pretty mean with red lettering, black rims and that slight nose up look.

[Swifster]

OK, I just saw this so I had to do my own digging. What I found was that the only big Poncho that came with black interiors was the Grand Prix. You could not get a Catalina, Star Cheif or Bonneville interior in black. The Grand Prix trim code was 289 and it was only available in vinyl.

Catalina Interior Colors (Trim Codes)

Blue C & V (221,226)

Blue V (231,241,236)

Aqua C & V (222,227)

Aqua V (232,242,237)

Green C & V (223,228)

Green V (233,243)

Fawn C & V (224,229)

Fawn V (234,244,239)

Maroon C & V (230)

Maroon V (235,245,240)

Gray V (299)

The Grand Prix also shows a Red and a Saddle. The Bonneville shows a Silver. The Bonneville was the only Poncho with a leather interior (available in Aqua, Fawn, Silver and Maroon).

All Pontiacs, including the Tempest were available in Starlight Black (AA). Wheel colors were Carib Aqua, Canyon Bronze, Ensign Blue, Ivy Green and Burgundy. The cars could also be ordered with Two Tone paint. I'm assuming this just gave you a contrasting color on the roof.

Hope this helps.

Edited October 19, 2011 by Swifster

[noname]

Thanks for your addition Swifster. I have actually seen a couple Catalina pics with a white roof. They look kinda neat. Lots of possibilities.

[Dr. Cranky]

I like blue personally.

[my66s55]

Here's one of those non-existent black interiors in a 62 Bonneville on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/...c#ht_500wt_1172. I also found a Bonnie hardtop with black interior, but I can't locate it now. Pontiac used leather in the more expensive models.

[Swifster]

Here's one of those non-existent black interiors in a 62 Bonneville on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/...c#ht_500wt_1172. I also found a Bonnie hardtop with black interior, but I can't locate it now. Pontiac used leather in the more expensive models.

I stand corrected. The trim code (273) doesn't show up in the book I'm using (Catalog of American Car ID Numbers 1960-1969). The Cameo Ivory matches the paint code. It looks like the interior is leather.

On a seperate note, I do love those 60's Bonneville with the 'extended' tail lamps.

Edited October 19, 2011 by Swifster