sportandmiah Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I plan on painting a Catalina with Boyd's Ice Blue Pearl. I first tested on some plastic spoons using airbrushed Model Master aluminum metalizer as the base coat, then many layers of the Ice Blue pearl. I was expecting the color to really pop, but it didn't. It looked nice, but not like i thought it would. I tested on a few primary colors as a basecoat to no avail. Is.there something i should be using specifically as a basecoat to make the pearl really pop out?
martinfan5 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Doug- I dont know alot about pearls, but from what I have read is that a silver base coat can be used, but i am not sure. can you post a pic of what the blue looks like? I am interested in seeing this color
Dr. Cranky Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I agree with Jonathan, a picture would help. I think with some pearls you have to tinker and maybe apply a little bit more bling to them, either through another coat of clear or with maybe a little bit of a different pearl color or effect. Again, if you have not tried the Pearl Ex powders, you should, the line comes with a few blues and transference blues that would augment what you have.
VW Dave Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I'm not sure about pearls, but I've had great luck with gloss black as a basecoat under metallics. The spoon at the far left has gloss black as the base, and the color is very rich compared to the other two spoons(the metallic blue is the same on all three).
crazyjim Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Try a basecoat of HOK Orion Silver that has a fairly heavy metallic to it.
sportandmiah Posted December 7, 2011 Author Posted December 7, 2011 Try a basecoat of HOK Orion Silver that has a fairly heavy metallic to it. So a metallic silver might help? Ill try that. What about any other metallic color?
LoneWolf15 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 It doesn't necessarily have to be a metallic color , any corresponding standard color will help bring out the Ice Blue Pearl . Try sky blue and watch what happens !
Guest Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Never have seen the Ice Blue Pearl by Boyds. I've used the True Blue Pearl and I always spray it over black. I wonder what pearls would look like sprayed over chrome paint?
LoneWolf15 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 They are pretty to say the least ! You need to mist coat and be sure to get into the recessed areas first . The chrome paint reflects the color back through the pearls , creating a bright span of color spectrum that is quite vivid !
Monty Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 It doesn't necessarily have to be a metallic color , any corresponding standard color will help bring out the Ice Blue Pearl . Try sky blue and watch what happens ! Donn, after seeing other pics of your work the other day, I was impressed. This sounds like an interesting solution to Doug's problem. Would you happen to have an example of this combo we could see?
crazyjim Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I will leave it to the master, Doug. Donn has probably forgotten more about painting than I ever hope to know.
LoneWolf15 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Monty , Best suggestion for examples , go to my website at oldmansmodels.com . Look for the Jack's Frost ' 69 Nova . This was shot with a light blue base , and then shot over with the Ice Blue Pearl . Another thing that I love about the enamels from Testor , you can mix & match different colors to your heart's content ! Never , ever a worry with incompatibility !
LoneWolf15 Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 I will leave it to the master, Doug. Donn has probably forgotten more about painting than I ever hope to know. Jim , Be that as it may ... You were one of the smart ones , you bought the DVD ! That caught you up real quick , all that's left for you to do now is practice and experiment . From what I have seen ... You caught on real quick , your paintwork has improved significantly in a very short period of time . Most of which , can be credited to your passion and diligence for acheiving quality paint finishes .
crazyjim Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Thanks, Donn. I keep trying. After seeing your technique enamels and Fatkidd's technique for HOK, I mixed the 2 together and came up with my own technique and it seems to work for me.
Chuck Most Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Another question- how long are you waiting before you spray the Ice Blue over the basecoat? I've had issues in the past where I would spray my color coat over the base or primer coat when the initial coats were not fully cured. That can dull the color/gloss coat or change the shade of the paint. I began making sure my primer or basecoat was fully cured before spraying any color or gloss coats, and haven't had the problem since. Really befuddled me for a long time before I realized what I was doing!
sportandmiah Posted December 7, 2011 Author Posted December 7, 2011 The basecoat was fully cured. My.concern was not.the. quality of the paint job itself, rather the color was lighter than i thought.
Chuck Most Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Okay. A darker silver basecoat might help, but I think Donn's suggestion of using Sky blue would be pretty much sure-fire.Sky blue is pretty close to Ice blue and would be a great base. It's been a long time since I used any Testors Boyd's colors, so I don't really remember how opaque they are but you did say you added quite a few coats of color, I think with Donn's method you'd be more or less 'tinting' the Sky blue base with the Ice blue pearl for a darker shade of Ice.
LoneWolf15 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Several of the Boyds colors are a bit more translucent then the others , you happened to pick one of them ! From personal experience , I can tell you this color is not going to " jump " for you , it is a subtle color . Adding the Pearl X overcoats will make it dance a bit more for you . You can also add different colors into the Ice Blue mix itself .
LoneWolf15 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Chuck , You are correct ! A deeper blue will bring it out . Anytime you use a similar base color , the Pearls help create a subtle flipflop . Far from gaudy , it is a suprising change that flows with direct light . The slightest movement of light or the body will cause the color to shift and change.
Dr. Cranky Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 Monty , Best suggestion for examples , go to my website at oldmansmodels.com . Look for the Jack's Frost ' 69 Nova . This was shot with a light blue base , and then shot over with the Ice Blue Pearl . Another thing that I love about the enamels from Testor , you can mix & match different colors to your heart's content ! Never , ever a worry with incompatibility ! Amen to that, and you will certainly end up painting 20 vehicles just to see how that colors shimmers! I love this hobby, I do, I do, I do!!!! :wub:
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