62 Chevy "6"

[The Modeling Hermit]

I'm attempting to build a 62 full size Chevy with a six in it. I've searched the web most of the morning, and I'm now doing what I should have done in the beginning; coming to the forums. I need some pictures of both the front and rear mounts for the generator. What was the location of it and the power steering pump? I also need to know which side the exhaust ran down. Thanks in advance.

[my66s55]

First off, what are you using for a donor engine. That would seem to answer most of your questions.

[Craig Irwin]

The only "easy to find" correct late Chevy 6 is in the Trumpeter Nova kit. Did the 62 full size Chevy still use the early 6?

[Art Anderson]

I'm attempting to build a 62 full size Chevy with a six in it. I've searched the web most of the morning, and I'm now doing what I should have done in the beginning; coming to the forums. I need some pictures of both the front and rear mounts for the generator. What was the location of it and the power steering pump? I also need to know which side the exhaust ran down. Thanks in advance.

The correct inline 6 for full-size '62 Chevrolet was the 235cid Blue Flame engine. The most correct one of those is the engine in the AMT/Ertl '60 Chevy pickup, but it needs the correct aircleaner (pickup truck aircleaner will not fit under the low, flat passenger car hood). Ken Kitchen of Kitchen Table Resins has that aircleaner.

Art

[my66s55]

Yes, the full size still had the early 235 cu 6. The Chevy II used a new for 1962 194 cu 6.

[The Modeling Hermit]

Doug, I'm using the engine from the AMT 60 Chevy pickup. Thanks for the info on the air cleaner.

[espo]

The power steering pump would be monted on the drivers side, near the steering box. As others have said, you could get a 6 in an Impala, but most were in the lowerline models.

[Eshaver]

To try and answer all yer questions , uh yes Impallas could have had a 230 six with a manual , 235 with an automatic . The closest Block you're going to fin is probably an A M T 1960 Chevrolet truck as the 51 Chevrolets had a DIFFERENT valve cover . All Chevrolets used a DRIVER'S side exaust and intake . ALL Used the same power steering unit mounted low at the steering box from 1959 on .

The color was a Slate Blue as in Testors Blue Angel Blue from 1958 to 64. The air Cleaner HAS to be either scratch built or purchaced from Ken Kitchen resins . They were painted a semi Gloss Black . The OPTIONAL oil filter was also painted in Gloss Black . You can also make a small Gold slash on the top to designate the A/C decal often seen on them . Also, Fram oil Filters could have been purchaced as an "Aftermarket " accessory. They were a medium Blue with a bright orange top. they mounted OFF the intake manifold using two 2 /1/2 "U " bolts .

Two transmissions were avalible , well, actually three. You could have had a Cast iron Power Glide , later Aluminum , or a manual three speed syncronized 2nd and third gear . Generally , these were commonly painted in semi gloss Black .

For exterior colors , I suggest you go to Auto Color Library.com

Oh I owned a couple of these cars , worked on several more .................. Ed Shaver

[Art Anderson]

The power steering pump would be monted on the drivers side, near the steering box. As others have said, you could get a 6 in an Impala, but most were in the lowerline models.

My Chevrolet literature of the period indicates that the 235cid 6 was standard equipment all across the full sized 1962 Chevrolet line--no mention whatsoever of the newer Chevy 6 which was introduced for 1962 as the standard engine in the Chevy II (wasn't the 230cid unit though--that came a few years later, larger bore and stroke, base line engine for the 1964 Chevelle).

In any event, 1962 model year was the swan song for the 235, which began life as the medium-duty truck inline 6, a larger bore engine than the 216cid, both of which were new engines for model year 1937. It was the last inline 6 from Chevrolet (and I believe the last one in the US auto industry, to come standard-equipped with your choice of oil-wetted or oil bath aircleaners, and one of the very last to be equipped with a bypass oil filter, as an extra cost option only. Long time in production, that engine series--25 years, started with poured babbit lower end bearings, cast iron pistons--even a few 1/4-28 slotted head bolts used (hence the nickname "Stovebolt" as that size and style bolt was common in the days of cast iron stoves), and splash lubrication, morphing into a more modern engine with insert bearings, aluminum pistons and full-pressure lubrication.

Art

[The Modeling Hermit]

Thanks for the information everybody. In searching the net, I've confirmed on big Chevy fact; sixes aren't popular. I only found one color picture of a six, and that was in a junk car and it was painted orange, probably from a rebuild. I owned a 60 Impala when I was younger, and somebody had done a rebuild on that engine, and it was also painted orange. Since those were the only sources I had at the time I was building the engine, I painted it orange. Now I see that I have an incorrectly colored engine. That will be alright, because when I display the car, you'll see that the whole car is wrong anyway. I appreciate all the work that you've gone through for me.

[my66s55]

You need to get yourself some new literature Art. Hemming Classic Car issue #67, page " The four -main-bearing Stovebolt, along with several GMC variants as large as 302 cubic inches, lasted until 1962, when Chevrolet introduced the compact Chevy II model and, with it another 194-cu in. engine six cylinder engine." Encyclopedia of American Cars, page 219 under 1962 Chevrolet specs. Engines-I-6,194 3.56x3.25 S-Chevy II all, plus http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Chevrolet/1962_Chevrolet/1962_Chevrolet_Chevy_II_Brochure/1962%20Chevrolet%20Chevy%20II-10.html which is the Chevy II brochure for 1962. which is the 1962 Chevy II brochure.

[Art Anderson]

Thanks for the information everybody. In searching the net, I've confirmed on big Chevy fact; sixes aren't popular. I only found one color picture of a six, and that was in a junk car and it was painted orange, probably from a rebuild. I owned a 60 Impala when I was younger, and somebody had done a rebuild on that engine, and it was also painted orange. Since those were the only sources I had at the time I was building the engine, I painted it orange. Now I see that I have an incorrectly colored engine. That will be alright, because when I display the car, you'll see that the whole car is wrong anyway. I appreciate all the work that you've gone through for me.

The correct color for Chevy 235's from the first passenger car use in the 1953 Corvette, out to 1962 was a sort of "dusty medium blue" color (Odds & Ends enamels--themselves a continuation of the more popular colors of Pactra 'Namel hobby paints stemming from way back in the late 50's, called "Marina Blue" is so close to Chevrolet Engine Blue it's scary!). All the various bolt-on stuff was semi-gloss black (pulleys, generator, fan, starter, aircleaner, distributor). My Chevrolet reference for this era, "Chevrolet Book Of Numbers--long out of print I think--lists power steering as available on all levels of the full sized Chevrolet, regardless of engine. However, though I don't have a pic of the PS pump, I tend to think it followed Saginaw Division's practice of piggybacking the PS Pump onto the back of the Generator--as seen in the excellent Revell kit of the '59 Cadillac Eldorado's, and not as a completely separate unit, unlike those from Ford, Chrysler, Studebaker and AMC in that year.

Art

[Art Anderson]

You need to get yourself some new literature Art. Hemming Classic Car issue #67, page " The four -main-bearing Stovebolt, along with several GMC variants as large as 302 cubic inches, lasted until 1962, when Chevrolet introduced the compact Chevy II model and, with it another 194-cu in. engine six cylinder engine." Encyclopedia of American Cars, page 219 under 1962 Chevrolet specs. Engines-I-6,194 3.56x3.25 S-Chevy II all, plus http://www.oldcarbro...vy%20II-10.html which is the Chevy II brochure for 1962. which is the 1962 Chevy II brochure.

Methinks you misread my post! I said that the 235 was the last Chevy 6 to come with optional oil filter, and oil wet or oilbath aircleaners--coming as it did, from 1937. It was also a more powerful engine than the 1994cid Chevy II 6 (which lent it's design ultimately to the 230, and eventually 250cid inline 6's). Also, the Chevy 216/235 really wasn't quite the same engine as the GMC 302, but that's a different story for another time.

[Art Anderson]

You need to get yourself some new literature Art. Hemming Classic Car issue #67, page " The four -main-bearing Stovebolt, along with several GMC variants as large as 302 cubic inches, lasted until 1962, when Chevrolet introduced the compact Chevy II model and, with it another 194-cu in. engine six cylinder engine." Encyclopedia of American Cars, page 219 under 1962 Chevrolet specs. Engines-I-6,194 3.56x3.25 S-Chevy II all, plus http://www.oldcarbro...vy%20II-10.html which is the Chevy II brochure for 1962. which is the 1962 Chevy II brochure.

My reference is the out of print book "Chevrolet Book Of Numbers Volume 2, which itself is a complete set of reprints of Chevrolet Dealer Literature (dealer only, not brochures) 1953-1954. It has a lot of information on all Chevrolet series, Chevrolet, Corvette, Corvair, Chevy II and Chevelle from those years. As for Hemmings Classic Car Magazine, I take all popular magazine articles with a grain of salt, until I can check them against known factory information.

And, for Kodiak, the book I mention gives all the available colors for 1962 Chevrolet full size cars, be they Biscayne, Bel Air or Impala. Just ask!

Art

[my66s55]

My Chevrolet literature of the period indicates that the 235cid 6 was standard equipment all across the full sized 1962 Chevrolet line--no mention whatsoever of the newer Chevy 6 which was introduced for 1962 as the standard engine in the Chevy II (wasn't the 230cid unit though--that came a few years later, larger bore and stroke, base line engine for the 1964 Chevelle).

In any event, 1962 model year was the swan song for the 235, which began life as the medium-duty truck inline 6, a larger bore engine than the 216cid, both of which were new engines for model year 1937. It was the last inline 6 from Chevrolet (and I believe the last one in the US auto industry, to come standard-equipped with your choice of oil-wetted or oil bath aircleaners, and one of the very last to be equipped with a bypass oil filter, as an extra cost option only. Long time in production, that engine series--25 years, started with poured babbit lower end bearings, cast iron pistons--even a few 1/4-28 slotted head bolts used (hence the nickname "Stovebolt" as that size and style bolt was common in the days of cast iron stoves), and splash lubrication, morphing into a more modern engine with insert bearings, aluminum pistons and full-pressure lubrication.

Art

"--no mention whatsoever of the newer Chevy 6 which was introduced for 1962 as the standard engine in the Chevy II (wasn't the 230cid unit though--that came a few years later, larger bore and stroke, base line engine for the 1964 Chevelle)."

Methinks I read quite well. Ya i'm of Sottish decent. By the way never stated it was standard. Just new.

[Guest Johnny]

The 235 was phased out in 1963! I had a one owner early year 4 door Belair that came with one!

Well I researched real quick and they do say phased out in 62 but the car I had did come with the 235 which I know still were available in the trucks in 63.

Wonder if it was possible to special order it?

Edited December 30, 2011 by Johnny

[my66s55]

The 235 was phased out in 1963! I had a one owner early year 4 door Belair that came with one!

Well I researched real quick and they do say phased out in 62 but the car I had did come with the 235 which I know still were available in the trucks in 63.

Wonder if it was possible to special order it?

Your 265 ci 6 was not the stovebolt 6 phased out in 1962 , but a new version introduced in1963 that incorporated thin cylinder wall construction as in the v-8's.

[Gluhead]

Thanks for the information everybody. In searching the net, I've confirmed on big Chevy fact; sixes aren't popular.

Now that one depends on what circle you're runnin' in. The traditional sect may well argue that they are. I know I'd just as soon see/hear a nicely augmented stovebolt as a sbc any day. Gives life a little extra flavor.

Might want to check the h.a.m.b. for threads on them, if you have any interest in dressing yours up at all.

[Longbox55]

The 235 was phased out in 1963! I had a one owner early year 4 door Belair that came with one!

Well I researched real quick and they do say phased out in 62 but the car I had did come with the 235 which I know still were available in the trucks in 63.

Wonder if it was possible to special order it?

The 235 and 261s were only used in early '63 4x4 trucks (1/2 and 3/4 ton, respectively), Passenger and 2wd trucks got the new for '63 230, and in 3/4 and 1 tons, the tall deck 292 inline 6. The 235/261 did not necessarily die with the new engines in '63, though. They were built well into the '70s for GM do Brazil for South American applications.

[JBucci]

Thanks for the great information Guys!

Jim