Kaleb Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I know there are two types, siphon fed and gravity. I also realize that I can have multiple colors ready to go with the siphon fed. So the question lies with the gravity fed gun. I know iwata is a good brand, my bro in law has an iwata compressor and gun. How good is the neo? I don't want to spend 40+ bucks on it and it not allow most paints to go through.
mad_dr Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I don't have any experience of the Neo range personally but I use an Iwata Revolution and I'm very impressed with it so far. I would appreciate if it was able to break it down into slightly more elements to make it easier to clean but it has a nice spray pattern and a good double-action to it. One thing I DO know about the Neo though is that it's not actually made by Iwata. As I understand it it's a cheaper range with the Iwata brand but produced by a third party. I can't comment on the quality though - they could be great for the money. Advice tends to suggest buying the best airbrush you can afford but if money is tight (and it always is for me!) then consider budgeting for a cheap compressor instead of propellant cans and work out what budget you have for the airbrush once you've allowed for the compressor. Andy
Casey Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Also consider saving up $100 or so and buying an Iwata Eclipse airbrush from Hobby Lobby with the 40% off coupon, instead of the cheaper neo model.
Kaleb Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 Yea, i could. I have a compressor that would work fine. Or I can wait until my bro inlaw gets rid of his lol. 40 bucks is a chunk of change for me in that area. If it had to do with my 1:1 that's a different story. I can't find anything used that seems to be good enough.
Rob McKee Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 I was looking at them in the hobby shop and they seem kinda nice. The trigger is a little stiff but other than that it looks like a decent airbrush. Of course I haven't tried one.
tabsscale1 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I have one and have shot Automotive lacquer, automotive enamel and Eurothane through it. Liked it just as well asmy eclipse and my Paasche VL's. It even shot the eurothane clear with pearl in it as well. Mine is the Gravity feed one. I liked itwell enough that when i accidently dropped it and broke the cup off of it that i went out and bought another one.
Rob McKee Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I have one and have shot Automotive lacquer, automotive enamel and Eurothane through it. Liked it just as well asmy eclipse and my Paasche VL's. It even shot the eurothane clear with pearl in it as well. Mine is the Gravity feed one. I liked itwell enough that when i accidently dropped it and broke the cup off of it that i went out and bought another one. That's good to know Todd. I have been thinking of getting one to save my Eclipse from acrylic paint. That way I can use one for oil base and the other for water base. I may just pull the trigger on this one now. Thanks
Erik Smith Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I had one and returned it to HL for an Eclipse. It sprayed really nice right from the box but as soon as I tore it down for a thorough cleaning the consistency of spraying dropped off. I had trouble keeping a seal on the head cap. It came from the factory with some type of red thread seal and once I removed the cap, it did not seal and caused the AB to sputter and spray erratically. I did get it sealed with thread tape but that is a pain to have to replace every time you clean. Also, I removed the nozzle and upon retightening, I destroyed the tiny rubber grommet between the nozzle and the body. You can get replacements, but, again, a pain. I already had an eclipse siphon, so I returned the NEO gravity and got an eclipse gravity feed - both eclipses have served me very well with no problems.
Rob McKee Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I just put the brakes on Erik. Thanks for pointing this out.
scalenut Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 don't overlook the badger krome, it's an excellent airbrush. plus you get a nice case ,2 different needles and tip assembly's and a lifetime guarantee. for the same money as the iwata.
Dr. Cranky Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Me neither, although it looks like a real nice brush. I use the Iwata Eclipse.
Kaleb Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 My biggest thing is the amount of money to spend. I guess I could shop for a used brush and start there.
scalenut Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 if you can only afford the neo go for it ... it's a great beginner AB..plus you do get the iwata 5 year warranty
Hayabusa Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Like somebody allready said, the Neo is not manufatured by Iwata. I´m not 100% sure, but I believe it´s made by Sparmax. Not a bad thing, but in my opinion I would rather choose the Eclipse. The Eclipse is a very nice AB and I especially like the drop-in nozzle. Another option is the Patriot or 155 Anthem made by Badger. Very good AB´s and at a good price too. Spareparts are easy to get by and quite inexpensive. Also, if you´re painting model cars you very seldom need an AB that can paint hair-thin lines or extreme details. The customer service by Badger is really good too. They care for the customers. This is a good site for airbrushing in general: https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/home
sportandmiah Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 The NEO is fine. I have one and I couldn't ask for a better airbrush at that price. I tear it down to clean after every use with no ill results following. I had $200 to spend on an airbrush, but still chose the NEO...I only use it to paint interior and exterior parts and its perfect. I have the version with the paint cup on the top of thebrush which is a snap to clean. Don't forget the 40% coupon.
Kaleb Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 I have a siphon fed cheapo. It's a .035 mm. Hard thing to get paint through. I may buy just a body of a brush and build one. And it's looks siphon fed may win, because that's all I'm finding.
Erik Smith Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Don't overlook the Paasche H series brushes. They are single action, have a variety of tips, and are relatively inexpensive - and are popular with some people who really know how to lay down nice paint jobs.
Kaleb Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 What's the deal with different tips? Different angles? As an cone, fan, flat etc?
Hayabusa Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) @Kaleb - Basically, different needle sizes needs different tips/nozzles. The larger needle/tip set-up, the more paint will spray through the AB. Say, if you want to paint free-hand camo on an airplane or tank with very fine details you would probably do better with a 0.25-0.30 mm set-up. But, if you´re about to paint a car model body I would instead choose an AB with a 0.5-0.7 mm set-up. Still, you can paint some very fine lines with the larger set-up but it´s a bit easier with the smaller set-up. Like Erik Smith says - a single action AB is quite sufficient. Especially if you´re painting larger bits like a on a car model. The Paasche H or the Badger 200 NH, for instance. Like I wrote before, I like AB´s which has drop-in tips/nozzles (Iwata Eclipse, Badger, Paasche etc). The other type is the screw-in tip/nozzle which is much more fiddly to install and, sometimes, easy to damage. Doesn´t mean it´s a bad design - just different and in my opinion the drop-in tips makes life a little bit easier. Edited January 21, 2012 by Hayabusa
Kaleb Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Ah that helps, I've tried different things with ab but no avail. Only thing I can get to go through is water. The createx says I need a .5 so what type of paint goes through the smaller diameter brushes. I'm going to get another one eventually and I'll check those types out.
Hayabusa Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) @Kaleb - You can spray any kind of paint through an AB with a 0.35 mm set-up - as long as it´s thin enough i.e. it should have the consistency of milk. Water soluble paints like Tamiya acrylics do have a tendency to clog or you get a build-up of dry paint on the very tip of the needle. In that case, an AB with a larger set-up makes painting a bit easier. Sounds like your AB needs a thorough cleaning, maybe? Check the tip/nozzle, spray regulator and the head. And the needle. Edited January 21, 2012 by Hayabusa
Kaleb Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 I have, I've backed the needle off nothing happened. Might just be a faulty brush. I tried thinning down testers enamels but that didn't work either.
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