1/16th-Scale Drag Racing Photo Etch Ideas-Info Update 7/18/12

[comp1839]

scott, no problem. the tabs are no more than .060' thick maybe even .040". they're chromoly.

[comp1839]

here are some shots of a carbon rotor. please remember, this is one carbon rotor, from one manufacturer. there are other designs. it is not the "be all to end all" on carbon rotors................and yes these are 11" rotors.

Edited May 3, 2012 by comp1839

[eviltwincustoms]

scott, these look great! makes me want to build in 1/16 scale! in case you want to know. the window bezels, if you draw them up with a 5.5" i.d. would make great exhausts bezels on the fenders also. kind of a 2-fer.

as far as the brakes go. today, the NHRA mandates carbon brakes in all the pro catagories. other sanctioning bodies may or may not dictate their use. i'm only telling you what the NHRA mandates. steel rotors with slots and holes are still used in a lot of applications. so, if scott can do all of them, that's a bonus. that's his call.

bart, if you have 4 wheel brakes. you wouldn't run carbon brakes on one axle. either all or none. they brake totally different than conventional brakes and would be a severe hazard.

any questions? please ask.

I guess that would make sense, I never really thought about it much.

[futurattraction]

Thanks for the excellent reference pictures, Dave. Can't get any better than those!

[stump]

Scott, just a thought regarding discs. Not sure what the general acceptance would be, but the "carbon" cut off discs available for most rotor tools (Dremal etc) do look a little bit like

a carbon brake disc..? That's just my opinion, but I'd like for you to have a look at some and see what you think.

Now, they are most likely a little large, but it may be possible to turn them down, thus giving them a more "squared" edge as well. Of course, the centre hole would need to be

enlarged too. Not sure what these are cost wise, but they might be a candidate.

I was so tempted to go this option on my 1/12 build, but in the end I stayed with what I had in resin discs.

[futurattraction]

Hey folks,

An update for you all. I submitted a PE drawing/layout last night for 1/12th and 1/16th scale Dzus plates in several styles. There will be twelve sets of lightened plates and twelve sets of "standard" plates in this first round in 1/12th scale. There will be 32 sets of 1/16th scale lightened and standard plates and eight sets of clipped- corner plates. There are sixty plates per set and are made out of .006 nickel-silver.

Next up will be finishing the stainless steel Dzus self-ejecting buttons in stainless. Thickness will .004". I'm 99.9% sure there are 84 buttons per set for both 1/12th and 1/16th. Other pieces that will be submitted in that same order will be window and fender bezels, C2C marker/ruler and possibly some other pieces that would fit 1/16th thickness in 1:1, preferably with a finish similar to stainless.

Let me know if you've got more suggestions.

Scott

[midengineaddict]

take note that I will buy everything available...

[Mooneyzs]

Scott... let me know when you have them. I will get my pocket book out. Any luck on the butterfly steering wheel, brake handles, parachute handles in this order or will it be in the next??

[futurattraction]

Thanks for your replies, guys!

Luc - I will remember that! LOL

Chris - My feeling right now is that, in 1:1, the butterfly wheel would be made out of ~3/16" and the brake, fuel shut-off and chute lever handles would be constructed out of 1/4". Now's the time to chime in if you (or anyone else) think(s) differently. IF you agree, then they ought to be made out of .016" thick material, which is the closest thickness dimension in nickel-silver quoted to me. Another aspect of PE that, for me, comes into play is this - IF I can use a finish that comes closest to replicating the finish of the 1:1 component, I'm hoping/thinking it might be able to stay unpainted. You don't lose detail that way and may look more natural.

Okay. Let me know what you think.

[comp1839]

scott, the brake handle would be 1/4" thick. the fuel shutoff, chute levers, and the butterfly steering wheel are 1/8" thickness.

[Prostreet]

Great news Scott, Can't wait to see them.

[futurattraction]

Thanks for coming to the rescue Dave! I waay overestimated on some of them, didn't I? Are the smaller levers and butterfly made out of something like 6061-T6 aluminum?

[Mooneyzs]

Scott... I think that sounds great about the finish of the products and couldn't agree more that it would look more natural. Dave thanks for clarifying the sizes. I can't wait to get some sets of these .

[midengineaddict]

what about the idea of make 3-4 or 5 shifter kit for lenco tranny?

[comp1839]

i wouldn't say you way over estimated them, scott. hehe. very possible on the 6061-t6.

[futurattraction]

Joe - thanks for your continued encouragement!

Chris - I'm glad you see where I'm coming from regarding the finish. It won't always work, but it's worth trying where it's feasible.

Luc - Thanks for the suggestions. I will certainly take them into consideration. I already do original "flat" Lenco hand and detent levers in 1/25th, so it wouldn't be tough to scale them up to 1/16th. Are those what you mean or do you mean something like Lightning Rod levers? My biggest concern would be how many people are building 1/16th scale drag cars these days that use levers. Virtually all the Lenco-equipped builds I see online are Pro Mods and it seems as though they're all air-shifted. It's a totally different matter about the Liberty-equipped NHRA pro stockers, where manual shifting is required. The ventilated rotors with separate insert between discs will take a bit of thought but I know they're do-able...

Dave - Something in the back of my mind was confident about the hand brake lever being 1/4-inch. The other pieces didn't "feel right" in my head, and especially the butterfly wheel, but I didn't really have anything good to go on, so I do appreciate your input. As long as we're on the topic of input. You always urge me/us to ask questions, so here's one. Would you have any opportunity to measure the "old style" flat Lenco levers to see how long they are? My 1/25th, I think, are close, but all I had to go by was scaling from some pics.

[midengineaddict]

I will be happy to buy the flat ones...

[comp1839]

sure i'll take some pics and email 'em to ya.

[futurattraction]

Thank you, Sir...

[comp1839]

i don't get to handle photo etch to much since no one really makes anything for drag cars in 1:8 scale. but,... here's a thought (and maybe you guys already do this) before you remove the photo etch can you / do you?? "grain" the finish with some really fine scotchbrite?

Edited May 12, 2012 by comp1839

[futurattraction]

I haven't personally done anything like that yet. Of course with 1/25th, which is the only scale I've had any dealings with, really, parts are small enough that graining may or may not be noticeable anyway. I have polished the nickel-silver and it polishes out pretty nicely. Another thought to at least keep in mind is that the rolls of material that the PE parts are produced from have a grain to them, by nature, so in a larger scale such as 1/8, it's possible if the parts were laid out in the proper direction, a guy might be able to create some level of graining in the natural finish.

[futurattraction]

I've added a couple more items to what I'm planning to do in PE. With Dave's help, I've gotten some good photos and feedback about a BBC trigger wheel (still need to do the pickup arm and mounting bracket) and some wheelie bar wheels. I plan to add a couple more trigger wheels and maybe another design of wheelie bar wheels. I will also be doing wheelie bar brackets. Here are some pics of the current wheels. Oh, and Luc, I've been working on flat Lenco levers.

Edited May 17, 2012 by futurattraction

[comp1839]

man, i might have to start 1/16,.... i'm tellin' ya. all of these cool parts would sure make my life easy. looks great scott!!!!!!

[futurattraction]

You'd have more body choices to start with, that's pretty much a given... LOL You may have to give it a try someday!

[midengineaddict]

Thanks, I will buy it, you got my parole

Edited May 18, 2012 by midengineaddict