1972coronet Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Through "six-degrees-of-separation" I found the Tower Hobbies site . It was there where I found that the MPC-come-ERTL Oldsmobile 4-4-2 / Hurst is schedulled for re-release.I hope that the Olds is the version with the 4-speed or TH400 option , and the Hurst Dual-Gate shifter(yes , that shifter will find its way into my planned '68 Hurst-Hemi Dart build).Can any-one provide a link or some photos of the contents of these kits?
Mark Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 The Hurst version of the kit includes the automatic, the W-30 version includes a four-speed. Pedals and console are different in each kit, and correct for each configuration. No issue of this kit had both transmissions. The stock air filter setups and exhaust systems differ between the two versions also.
Rob Hall Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Any one have any pics of what's in the box of the H/O reissue?
The70judgeman Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) Just picked up the '69 Hurst today...here's a couple of pics of the tires from the kit. Edited November 2, 2012 by The70judgeman
Casey Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Just saw this at Hobby Lobby today, and I noticed only the stock gold decals are included, but this is still perhaps MPC's (don't let the faux-retro AMT box art fool you) best kit ever, and the chassis and suspension should find its way under many a 1/25 scale GM A-body. I think the included rear spoiler is the same as used on the '70 Olds 442 W-30 and Rallye 350, too.
The70judgeman Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Any one have any pics of what's in the box of the H/O reissue? Didn't take any pics of the actual kit parts, but besides the new tires, the kit is a clean repop of the old one...minimal flash. Also included in the kit is a paper board sheet of a mini-box of the kit to cut out and assemble, and a Hurst sticker.
Rob Hall Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 (edited) Just saw this at Hobby Lobby today, and I noticed only the stock gold decals are included, but this is still perhaps MPC's (don't let the faux-retro AMT box art fool you) kit ever, and the chassis and suspension should find its way under many a 1/25 scale GM A-body. True, the '69 Cutlass was one of the last new MPC kits tooled, along w/ the '88 Beretta and Silverado. I remember the '88 kits quite well. AMT did rebox some Johan kits in the late '60s-early 70s, I'm not sure if they reboxed the Johan '69 Cutlass back then. Edited November 2, 2012 by Rob Hall
Casey Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Are the Polyglas tire halves misaligned, Andy? It looks like there's a step where the two halves would mate on the finished tire.
The70judgeman Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Are the Polyglas tire halves misaligned, Andy? It looks like there's a step where the two halves would mate on the finished tire. It looks to be just that 1 tire. The other 3 look pretty good, although there is a slight parting line in the middle. Nothing that some light sanding on the tread can't take care of. Other than that, they look pretty good. Especially with the tighter tread pattern.
Mark Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 True, the '69 Cutlass was one of the last new MPC kits tooled, along w/ the '88 Beretta and Silverado. I remember the '88 kits quite well. AMT did rebox some Johan kits in the late '60s-early 70s, I'm not sure if they reboxed the Johan '69 Cutlass back then. AMT did offer the Jo-Han '69 4-4-2 in AMT packaging. The box art was not in the style of the 1969 annual kits, however. I believe this was the first instance of Jo-Han producing a kit that was sold by both itself and AMT. Previous efforts ('67-'68 Toronado, '68 AMX) were sold only by AMT. AMT and Jo-Han both sold the 1970 4-4-2 kit also. AMT sold it in two different boxes with different stock numbers. AMT did the two-box thing with the 1969 and 1970 AMX kits also. One of the boxes for both the 4-4-2 and AMX were in the same style as other AMT annual kit boxes.
1972coronet Posted November 2, 2012 Author Posted November 2, 2012 Does this kit include the Dual-Gate Shifter (and obviously the corrosponding TH 400 ) and-or the M21/M22 4 speed ?
Mark Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Does this kit include the Dual-Gate Shifter (and obviously the corrosponding TH 400 ) and-or the M21/M22 4 speed ? It includes the automatic and Hurst shifter. The W-30 version of this kit had the four-speed.
The70judgeman Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Does this kit include the Dual-Gate Shifter (and obviously the corrosponding TH 400 ) and-or the M21/M22 4 speed ? Dual-gate shifter/TH400 only. It looks to be in 3 pieces. The console, chrome shift gate, and chrome shifter. The Revell '72 Cutlass/442 gives you the option.
1972coronet Posted November 3, 2012 Author Posted November 3, 2012 Thank you Mark and theJudge70man ! Now I know what I'm going to buy in order to have the coveted Dual-Gate for my '68 Hemi Dart ! Oh , and as an added bonus , a nice Olds to add to my collection (sans its original shifter ) .
1972coronet Posted November 3, 2012 Author Posted November 3, 2012 By the way , does anyone have pics of this beautiful kit's contents (aside from its nice looking tyres) ??
rasafyff Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Just picked up the '69 Hurst today...here's a couple of pics of the tires from the kit. Wouldn't F-60's be the correct tires for this car. I don't think you could put L-60's on the front of a real Olds 442.
The70judgeman Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Wouldn't F-60's be the correct tires for this car. I don't think you could put L-60's on the front of a real Olds 442. Looking it up and according to one particular site dedicated to the '69 Hurst/Olds...the correct tire is G60-15 on a special 15x7 rim.
Rob Hall Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Looking it up and according to one particular site dedicated to the '69 Hurst/Olds...the correct tire is G60-15 on a special 15x7 rim. What's the difference between F-, L-, and G- 60s? Width?
The70judgeman Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 What's the difference between F-, L-, and G- 60s? Width? I'm not an expert on tire sizing, but I would have to say yes in a nut shell. From what I've read, the old system was based on aspect ratio while the new system is based more on load capacity if that's any help. But anyway, from a conversion chart a G60-15 is a 7.10-15 in the old system and P245/60R15 in the current system.
High octane Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Is the lettering on the tires "tampo printed?" TIA
The70judgeman Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Is the lettering on the tires "tampo printed?" TIA Basically yes. Tampo and pad printing is pretty much the same. On the box it says "pad printed" tires though.
2000-cvpi Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 Does anyone know if this kit is based on the Johan 1970 Oldsmobile kit? I bought one yesterday and another today. I opened one and the similarities between the two kits make it look like the tooling is either the same or close to it.
Don Sikora II Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Does anyone know if this kit is based on the Johan 1970 Oldsmobile kit? I bought one yesterday and another today. I opened one and the similarities between the two kits make it look like the tooling is either the same or close to it. No, this Hurst Olds kit is the second version of the 1969 Olds 442 W-30 kit that was originally released by MPC/Ertl around 1988. The Hurst Olds kit was first released by AMT/Ertl in 1989. These kits use completely different tooling than the Jo-Han kit.
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