MitchP Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I picked up a pack of 020 fuel line from Detail Masters and they have a diagram on their site, but danged if I can figure out what to buy to make realistic fuel line connectors. I really don't want to have to assemble anything, just find something to what I saw for Tamiya models on Ebay: 3 or 4 different kind of fittings, 90 deg, 45 degree and then a straight fitting. You paint them yourself and it looks like the fuel like just fits inside the fitting; no threads, combination fittings, compression fittings, etc. Here's the auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RESIN-A-N-FITTINGS-HOSE-JOINTS-LARGE-40pc-for-TAMIYA/290515384458?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D891821553783189145%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D290515384458%26 Here's the chart from Detail Masters:
ScaleDale Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Your screenshot missed the top line where the scale references are. Here. The first column is for 1:24 scale. Your line is 1/2 inch in full scale. I'll see what real fuel line is and check back. EDIT: I checked your Ebay link out and can't figure it out either. No mention as to what large is... Hate that... EDIT: These are more expensive, but better quality. I use their rod ends and miniature hardware for the suspensions in some of my builds. RB Motion: http://www.rbmotion.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=68_111&product_id=254 Note: 8 pieces = 4 finished connectors. Dale Edited August 28, 2013 by ScaleDale
crazyjim Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I have some Japanese seed beads that are hex shaped. When I want to use them I coat some with Tamiya clear red and others in clear blue. Heck of a lot cheaper than the aftermarket suppliers and I have them in 3 or 4 different sizes.
MitchP Posted August 28, 2013 Author Posted August 28, 2013 Your screenshot missed the top line where the scale references are. Here. Chart.jpg The first column is for 1:24 scale. Your line is 1/2 inch in full scale. I'll see what real fuel line is and check back. EDIT: I checked your Ebay link out and can't figure it out either. No mention as to what large is... Hate that... EDIT: These are more expensive, but better quality. I use their rod ends and miniature hardware for the suspensions in some of my builds. RB Motion: http://www.rbmotion.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=68_111&product_id=254 Note: 8 pieces = 4 finished connectors. Dale Dale: these are awesome! I tried the RB website yesterday and got a web 404 error. Must have been a server problem. These are the best so far and exactly what I need for my Shoebox Ford build!
MitchP Posted August 28, 2013 Author Posted August 28, 2013 I have some Japanese seed beads that are hex shaped. When I want to use them I coat some with Tamiya clear red and others in clear blue. Heck of a lot cheaper than the aftermarket suppliers and I have them in 3 or 4 different sizes. Jim: I checked your link, but didn't find any references to those beads. Do you have any pics of how they turn out? Thanks.
crazyjim Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Yeah - here's some. http://s544.photobucket.com/user/IMcrazyjim/media/STREET%20MACHINES/66%20pro%20street%20Nova/001.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4 http://s544.photobucket.com/user/IMcrazyjim/media/STREET%20MACHINES/71%20Plymouth%20Hemi%20Cuda/0022.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3 http://s544.photobucket.com/user/IMcrazyjim/media/MISCELLANEOUS%20VEHICLES/50%20Olds%20gasser/0012.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5
Casey Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Dale: these are awesome! R.B. Motion has great products and even better customer service, so I would definitely recommend them. I've also used Detail Master braided line, soft aluminum "hard" line, and fittings, too, and loved them, so you can't go wrong with them either.
ScaleDale Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 ^^^ I ordered some nuts and bolts today and they shipped in an hour. That's service! Dale
Casey Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Scale Hardware is great for miniature nuts and bolts, too.
Mooneyzs Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Hey Mitchell..... take a look at this thread I started on reference material.... http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70954 It has charts that I made for Fittings, Braided line, Scale Hardware. I personally use on RB Motion A/N Fittings on my builds. Robert is a great guy to do business with and I have even had him machine some custom pieces for me as well. As for Braided line my personal opinion is that Pro Tech is the best in the business and Charlie is a great guy to talk with and do business with. Bob from Scale Hardware is another great guy I get all of my bolts from. Take a look at the link
Mike Kucaba Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 How can I print this out? Isn't there something like "screen shot" or something so that you can print just what your looking at? This is really handy and would make a great magazine pull out... gives new meaning to centerfold....
southpier Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 PM Mooneyzs and he'll send you the file in printable form. screenshot in Windows 7 can be done: Start Menu > All Programs > Accessories > Snipping Tool select what you want, save it, reopen it, & print
MitchP Posted August 29, 2013 Author Posted August 29, 2013 How can I print this out? Isn't there something like "screen shot" or something so that you can print just what your looking at? This is really handy and would make a great magazine pull out... gives new meaning to centerfold.... I use a free download called "Jing" which sits on your desktop and will allow you to select items on the screen, capture them, and save them.
MitchP Posted August 29, 2013 Author Posted August 29, 2013 Hey Mitchell..... take a look at this thread I started on reference material.... http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70954 It has charts that I made for Fittings, Braided line, Scale Hardware. I personally use on RB Motion A/N Fittings on my builds. Robert is a great guy to do business with and I have even had him machine some custom pieces for me as well. As for Braided line my personal opinion is that Pro Tech is the best in the business and Charlie is a great guy to talk with and do business with. Bob from Scale Hardware is another great guy I get all of my bolts from. Take a look at the link Chris (aka MoonEyes): This is fantastic (so is your sig ), but I could fail a basic math test at age 56. I need to know what is the most popular (accepted) size for braided fuel line only and then get what I need later for fittings. I intend to use Protech for braided line and RBMotion for fittings. For a 1/24 or 1/25 scale Revell model (Shoebox Ford of a Revell '55 Chevy Streetburner top sportsman), what size braided fuel line is the appropriate? I may use a a Ross Gibson blown kit engine in the '55 for some madness, but I hope Protech/RB will have the rest of the necessary plumbing. I have a 1/8th scale Hemi display engine to work off for example. Thanks for all the help; I know you get pinged a lot for info because of your experience. Galations 3:28 NIV
Mooneyzs Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 How can I print this out? Isn't there something like "screen shot" or something so that you can print just what your looking at? This is really handy and would make a great magazine pull out... gives new meaning to centerfold.... Mike PM me with your email addy and I will send the excel file to you.
Mooneyzs Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Chris (aka MoonEyes): This is fantastic (so is your sig ), but I could fail a basic math test at age 56. I need to know what is the most popular (accepted) size for braided fuel line only and then get what I need later for fittings. I intend to use Protech for braided line and RBMotion for fittings. For a 1/24 or 1/25 scale Revell model (Shoebox Ford of a Revell '55 Chevy Streetburner top sportsman), what size braided fuel line is the appropriate? I may use a a Ross Gibson blown kit engine in the '55 for some madness, but I hope Protech/RB will have the rest of the necessary plumbing. I have a 1/8th scale Hemi display engine to work off for example. Thanks for all the help; I know you get pinged a lot for info because of your experience. Galations 3:28 NIV Mitch... For fuel line you could go with Pro tech .020 to .025 line. I probably would go with the .025 line with it being a race car. Feel free to ask questions anytime. Also PM me your email addy and I will send the reference charts to you.
ScaleDale Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Fuel lines are either 3/8 or 1/2 depending, The 3/8 is for performance street/strip carbs. Here are some links to Summit Racing Equipment :http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-11202/recommendedparts http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-17202/overview/ I keep finding -6 AN as a measurement but can't find a definition for it. Dale Edited August 30, 2013 by ScaleDale
Mooneyzs Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Fuel lines are either 3/8 or 1/2 depending, The 3/8 is for performance street/strip carbs. Here are some links to Summit Racing Equipment :http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-11202/recommendedparts http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aei-17202/overview/ I keep finding -6 AN as a measurement but can't find a definition for it. Dale Dale.... the 1:1 size and Typical Application was taken from an earls or russel catalog. This is in the Model Reference material charts I have created
ScaleDale Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Chris: Thanks. It was right there. I kept trying to find out what "AN" stood for. At RB Motion I assumed it was "anodized". Dale
ratnasty Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) What is an "AN" fitting? What does "AN" mean?"AN" (Army-Navy) sizes were established by the aerospace industry years ago. The numbers refer to the o.d. of the rigid metal tube that each size fitting is used with. The numbers assigned equate to the o.d. of the tubing in 1/16" increments.AN Size Inch Equivalent-4 AN equals 1/4"-6 AN equals 3/8"-8 AN equals 1/2"-10 AN equals 5/8"-12 AN equals 3/4"Since tubing and hoses are found with assorted wall thicknesses, the designated size number does not necessarily tell you how large the inside diameter will be. For example, the inside diameter of an Earl's -6 AN hose end is nearly as large as the inside diameter of some other manufacturers' -8 AN hose ends. Edited September 1, 2013 by ratnasty
ScaleDale Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 What is an "AN" fitting? What does "AN" mean? "AN" (Army-Navy) sizes were established by the aerospace industry years ago. The numbers refer to the o.d. of the rigid metal tube that each size fitting is used with. The numbers assigned equate to the o.d. of the tubing in 1/16" increments. AN Size Inch Equivalent -4 AN equals 1/4" -6 AN equals 3/8" -8 AN equals 1/2" -10 AN equals 5/8" -12 AN equals 3/4" Since tubing and hoses are found with assorted wall thicknesses, the designated size number does not necessarily tell you how large the inside diameter will be. For example, the inside diameter of an Earl's -6 AN hose end is nearly as large as the inside diameter of some other manufacturers' -8 AN hose ends. Clear as a bell. You should append this to the reference thread that Moodeyes started since a/n is mentioned with fitting sizes. Dale
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