?Nascar kits

[retired & glad]

From what I have seen, Nascar kits are pretty inexpensive. I am not a Nascar fan ( I do own a few kits) but was wondering if there are really any parts like tires, engine, drivetrain and such that can be used on any other kits? So far I haven't mixed anything from them but was just wondering if anyone uses these Nascar kits for parts or such.

It looks like it would be a good way to get parts and pieces for a mod build if they could be used for that.

So far, I haven't built anything but box stock but would like to get a little more involved in modifying something other than straight out of the box.

Thanks

Richard

[o-man]

I could see using the motors and trannies for other builds. Also use roll bar pieces to make a roll bar for another vehicle. Depending on year/bodystyle, could use to make a fat fendered street car, or as I am planning, an older Trans Am car.

[Harry P.]

If you're talking about using NASCAR parts to build street cars, the answer is no. A NASCAR racer is pretty NASCAR specific and there's not much, if anything, that can be used in a model of a street driven car. NASCAR engines, chassis, suspensions, roll bars, etc. don't look like anything in the world of street-driven cars or even customs. Even the bodies are NASCAR-specific and don't look like any street cars.

However, if you don't care about accuracy, then of course you could use any part for anything...

[retired & glad]

Thanks Oscar and Harry. I kinda thought that anything much couldn't be used on street cars but thought I would ask anyway. I am not experienced enough to do any heavy modding but I have to start somewhere and with something.

Thanks

Richard

[zenrat]

If you're talking about using NASCAR parts to build street cars, the answer is no. A NASCAR racer is pretty NASCAR specific and there's not much, if anything, that can be used in a model of a street driven car. NASCAR engines, chassis, suspensions, roll bars, etc. don't look like anything in the world of street-driven cars or even customs. Even the bodies are NASCAR-specific and don't look like any street cars.

However, if you don't care about accuracy, then of course you could use any part for anything...

Harry, Harry, Harry, you are so wrong.

If the builder is using their imagination then potentially they can build anything they like from a NASCAR kit.

For example, they can be used to supply a detailed chassis to a Japanese kit engineered for batteries and electric motor.

This one is a Cannonball Run racer.

Or they can be used to create a sleeper that doesn't just go in straight lines.

This one inspired by a Hot Rod dare to be different featured Hudson.

So Richard, if they are cheap enough then snap one up and get imagineering...

[retired & glad]

Thanks Fred

I guessed someone had used one for something. Nice builds you have. I think I'll peek into one of the boxes I have and see what I can do with it. I was given a few in the 80's and since they are older models, I might come up with something different.

Thanks

Richard

[slusher]

l have seen som custom builds that builders have used engines and chassis..

[Harry P.]

Harry, Harry, Harry, you are so wrong.

If the builder is using their imagination then potentially they can build anything they like from a NASCAR kit.

That's exactly what I said. If accuracy isn't the goal and you're just "making stuff up," or "imagineering," then of course you can use any part from any kit to make anything, and who is to say you're wrong?

But the fact is, in the real world nobody would build a street-driven car by first fabricating a NASCAR chassis for it, or go to the trouble and expense of building a NASCAR-spec engine for it, or use a NASCAR-spec body for it.

Again, like I said, if you're just into "making stuff up," sure. But if you want to build a realistic, plausible street-driven car, then no.

[o-man]

But the fact is, in the real world nobody would build a street-driven car by first fabricating a NASCAR chassis for it, or go to the trouble and expense of building a NASCAR-spec engine for it, or use a NASCAR-spec body for it.

Again, like I said, if you're just into "making stuff up," sure. But if you want to build a realistic, plausible street-driven car, then no.

Well at least one person disagrees with you.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?CFGRIDKEY=DA0913-166391

[Harry P.]

Well at least one person disagrees with you.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?CFGRIDKEY=DA0913-166391

There's always an exception!

OK, Richard... get yourself a bunch of NASCAR kits and have at it!

[slusher]

Harry, Harry, Harry, you are so wrong.

If the builder is using their imagination then potentially they can build anything they like from a NASCAR kit.

For example, they can be used to supply a detailed chassis to a Japanese kit engineered for batteries and electric motor.

This one is a Cannonball Run racer.

Or they can be used to create a sleeper that doesn't just go in straight lines.

This one inspired by a Hot Rod dare to be different featured Hudson.

So Richard, if they are cheap enough then snap one up and get imagineering...

Two great looking builds Fred...

[martinfan5]

That's exactly what I said. If accuracy isn't the goal and you're just "making stuff up," or "imagineering," then of course you can use any part from any kit to make anything, and who is to say you're wrong?

But the fact is, in the real world nobody would build a street-driven car by first fabricating a NASCAR chassis for it, or go to the trouble and expense of building a NASCAR-spec engine for it, or use a NASCAR-spec body for it.

Again, like I said, if you're just into "making stuff up," sure. But if you want to build a realistic, plausible street-driven car, then no.

There are a few things you could use on a street car, the suspension is one, all the rear suspension is just truck trailing arms , and the axle , not much there, the front is pretty much just as simple, upper and lower control arms, springs, and then the shocks, those you can use on a street car. You could use the radiator from a NACCAR kit on a street car, you can use the shifter , steering wheel, the shocks, all can be adapted to a street car.

And yes, even the engine, its just a small block V8 that has been tunned , are they meant to be used in a everyday driver, oh heck no, but you could make one cool sleeper using the engine. Sure, it probably wont pass emissions, so that is one problem, and I am sure, there are ways to make the engine street legal as well.

But I am not sure if that would be worth the time or money to make it street legal, but depending what state you live in, and they way they have their vehicle emissions laws and for what years, if you put it in an older car, you might be ok there, but I am not sure if that only applies to showroom stock vehicles and no having to go through emissions

So yes, you can use a lot of the parts from a NASCAR kit on other builds

And Richard, we are building models, do what you want, its your builds, have some fun with them

[Daddyfink]

We used to gather kits and send them to the troops overseas a few years ago. We got a really nice letter thanking us and Skip Samples for getting them together and sending them. They even sent Skip a flag that flew over their base in Afghanistan.

They thanked him for all his support and looked forwards to more shipments, but, they had one request. NO MORE NASCAR KITS!!!!

Yes, they too had run out of ideas of what to do with them!! Maybe they should have given them to the Taliban to force their surrender! LOL!

C'mon! That funny right there!

[LokisTyro]

I think nascar kits would be great for build a hard-parked car. A hard-parked car is one that is built up completely with race modifications but without the intention of ever being raced.

So, the stock cars have fuel cells, headers, an aluminum radiator, roll cage and support bars, fire extinguisher, disc brakes, oil cooler, rear end cooler, race seat, race exhaust, window net, steering wheel, MSD ignition boxes, race instrument cluster, the springs with slight modification could pass for coil-overs, maybe the upper and lower A-arms, and depending on what you're building the entire driveline could be used. This is all from an AMT kit, so bits from other manufacturers might vary but I don't know the differences of them.

[kalbert]

If you're talking about using NASCAR parts to build street cars, the answer is no. A NASCAR racer is pretty NASCAR specific and there's not much, if anything, that can be used in a model of a street driven car. NASCAR engines, chassis, suspensions, roll bars, etc. don't look like anything in the world of street-driven cars or even customs. Even the bodies are NASCAR-specific and don't look like any street cars.

However, if you don't care about accuracy, then of course you could use any part for anything...

It's not uncommon for retired NASCAR chassis to turn up in other racing series, nor is it impossible for someone to order every single part on a NASCAR chassis from a catalog to do whatever the hell they want with. Aero wheels, for one, are used in racing series all over the world, not just Cup cars. SB2 heads found there way into every form of racing that would allow them, and into show cars, daily drivers, etc. Slicks included in the model kits can just as easily stand in for rear tires on a 1/4 mile car. That's not made up fantasy, its reality.

Believe it or not Harry, your models are just as plastic as everyone else's.

[retired & glad]

Thanks all for the info. I'll open them up and see what I might could use from them. Looks like I all most started another war. That was not my intention at all. Maybe I'll start a build post on what I am doing with them. I used to be a Chevy man, now I drive a Ford and I drag raced a Plymouth Duster when I was younger. I have 4 street kits started and I'm still trying to get the primer to turn out good on them. Think I'll concentrate on improving my painting for now and work on parts swapping later when I'm better at it.

Thanks

Richard

[PappyD340]

We used to gather kits and send them to the troops overseas a few years ago. We got a really nice letter thanking us and Skip Samples for getting them together and sending them. They even sent Skip a flag that flew over their base in Afghanistan.

They thanked him for all his support and looked forwards to more shipments, but, they had one request. NO MORE NASCAR KITS!!!!

Yes, they too had run out of ideas of what to do with them!! Maybe they should have given them to the Taliban to force their surrender! LOL!

C'mon! That funny right there!

What a brilliant idea Jesse, and maybe slip an IED or two in the kit boxes for an added measure, I think it might work!!!

[slantasaurus]

What a brilliant idea Jesse, and maybe slip an IED or two in the kit boxes for an added measure, I think it might work!!!

An even better idea would be to give the Taliban some old Palmer kits, they'll wish we had used IED's instead.