Plumbing and Wiring ?

[hooknladderno1]

Hi Guys,

I would like to start detailing my builds with wiring and plumbing. I don't have a working knowledge of what components are or what should be connected to what. Google searches haven't been very successful. Any suggestions or links would be appreciated! Thanks.

David

[Ace-Garageguy]

...I don't have a working knowledge of what components are or what should be connected to what...

That makes it difficult. It's just about impossible to do any kind of realistic detailing (and don't we detail models to make them seem more realistic?) without having a basic understanding of how things under the hood function.

If you're completely unfamiliar with the workings of engines, cooling systems, fuel systems, brakes, etc., I'd suggest you get yourself some basic books on how vehicles work. Internal-combustion vehicles ALL work basically the same way, and once you understand the basics, the components (that differ widely in location and routing in different vehicle types and brands) will begin to become recognizable, and the connections and functions will start to make sense when you do your googling.

[Harry P.]

Bill's advice to learn the basics is good... but even learning the basics of engines and how they work won't necessarily give you the information you need to detail a specific make/model, as different engines are plumbed/wired very differently.

If you're only interested in where the wires and hoses go, and not necessarily why they go where they go, a google image search for the specific vehicle you want to detail should get you enough images. Then just look at the photos and recreate what you see.

You say that google searches haven't worked? Try rewording your search criteria. Sometimes a simple rewording gets you very different results. For example, if you type in "Ford LN800" and you don't get what you need, try "LN800 engine" instead, or try "1979 LN800 engine," etc. Keep wording the search request a bit differently until you find what you need.

[Jantrix]

I find knowing the make and displacement (cubic inches) of the engine makes finding research pics a lot easier. Most kits will tell you that info on the box or instructions somewhere.

Also, starting out with just spark plug wiring is your best bet. But pay close attention, not all engines have the plugs in the same location. Then add heater hoses, next time. Add more as you get proficient.

Edited November 18, 2013 by Jantrix

[Madd Trucker]

If you are looking for detailing big rigs try this here

http://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/model_magazine_articles/car_model/cm-1972-03/

Edited November 19, 2013 by Madd Trucker

[Aaronw]

I'd suggest you ebay for some Haynes Manuals, something like this 1994-98 Dodge Truck manual.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Haynes-Repair-Manual-Dodge-Pick-Ups-1994-Thru-1998-All-Full-Size-Models-/350926157247?pt=US_Texbook_Education&hash=item51b4d435bf

They are fairly cheap, and usually have lots of diagrams. An advantage for a pickup manual for the big 3 is they will probably diagram a range of engines, 6 and 8 cylinder and maybe even a diesel. Also will probably show 2 and 4wd, automatic and manual set ups.

Dodge may not be the best example since most of the kits are curbsides, but this one is really cheap. They make a manual for just about any production vehicle, and even one for the Space Shuttle, although that is more of a diagram book than a real repair manual.

Unlike some repair manuals, these books are written for people who are not professional mechanics. They assume some working automotive knowledge, but are aimed at people who want to start working on their own car.

[Old Albion]

David,

Wiring and pluming can be a bit of a headache. The research can be a long journey of discovery with not much to show at the end! There is a lot of information out there but its not been pulled together. I find looking through vehicles on Ebay, Hank's Truck pictures etc a big help. Also as Aaron suggests try and get hold of service manuals. I have an old Peterbilt maintenance manual which has the air system diagrams at the back for the 351 and 352.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Another suggestion...older Chilton and Motor multi-vehicle repair manuals show a lot of different vehicles, and have a wealth of information. As you see, they're often arranged by loose inclusive time periods. They can also often be had very cheaply.