List of big rig truck engines in kits

[Bgrgbldr]

Gents,

I have a new computer and an old brain and I thought I had this list. Does it exist or am I dreaming. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If the lsi does not exist I may have to pull out all my trucks and start one.

Gary

[Jim B]

No, there is a list on this site. It might take some "creative searching" to find it.

[Force]

Here is a list I think I have found here on this forum, and I have done some modifications and additions to it...I think it should be quite correct.

 

Caterpillar 1160

AMT Ford LNT-8000

 

Caterpillar 3406A

Revell/Monogram Snap Kenworth W 900 Aerodyne

Revell/Monogram Snap Peterbilt 359

 

Caterpillar 3408

Revell AG Kenworth W 900 VIT

Revell AG Kenworth T 900 Australia

Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Dump Truck

Revell AG Kenworth W 900 Wrecker

 

Cummins V903

Ertl International Transtar F-4270

 

Cummins NHC-250

AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive

AMT White Freightliner Single Drive

AMT/ERTL Autocar 9964B Dumptruck

AMT Autocar A64B

 

Cummins NTA-370

AMT Kenworth K 123/125

AMT Kenworth W 900 Alaskan Hauler

AMT Kenworth W 925 Challenge Transit Mixer

AMT Kenworth W 923/925

AMT Kenworth T 600A/Canepa

 

Cummins NTC-350

AMT White Road Boss (Road Boss box says NTD-350 but I don't know of any such engine so it must be a NTC-350)

AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab Wrecker (T533 and all issues after that)

AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Cab (T501 and all issues after that)

AMT Diamond Reo

AMT White Western Star

 

Cummins NTC-400

Italeri Freightliner FLC

Revell AG Mack Superliner

Revell AG Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler)

Revell AG Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler)

Italeri Freightliner FLC Dumptruck

Italeri Western Star

Italeri Mack Superliner

Italeri Freightliner FLD (no aftercooler)

 

Cummins NTC-475 (twin turbos)

Revell AG Peterbilt 353

Revell AG Peterbilt 359

Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Conventional

Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Stepp's Can-Do and the new Revell US re-issue

Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Heavy Hauler Tri-drive

Revell AG Kenworth K 100 VIT Australia

Revell AG Kenworth K 100 Aerodyne

Revell AG Kenworth T 600A

 

 

Detroit Diesel 8V-71

AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker COE (T551 and all issues after that)

AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler "Small Window" Unilite Cab (T500-500, T500 and the newly reissued AMT 866)

AMT Peterbilt 359 "Small Window" Unilite Cab Wrecker (T522)

AMT GMC Astro 95

AMT Chevrolet Titan 90

AMT American LaFrance

Ertl International CO-4070A

Ertl International Transtar II Eagle

 

Detroit Diesel 8V-92T

AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne

AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck

AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck

 

Detroit Diesel 8V-92

AMT/Ertl GMC General

AMT/Ertl Chevy Bison

 

Detroit Diesel 12V-71T

AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Termo King)

AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss (Bandag)

AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit

Detroit Diesel 16V-71

AMT/Ertl International Payhauler 350

 

Detroit Diesel Series 60

Italeri Peterbilt 377AE

Italeri Peterbilt 378

Revell AG Peterbilt 377AE

 

International V-800

AMT/Ertl International Paystar 5000

AMT/Ertl International Transtar 4300

Ertl International F-2674/2575

 

International Maxxforce 15

Moebius International Lonestar

Moebius International Pro Star II

 

Mack ENDT-673

MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM600

 

Mack ENDT-865

MPC/AMT/Ertl Mack DM800

 

Mack ENDT-675

AMT/Ertl R-685ST/R Model

 

Mack ENDT-676 Tip Turbine

AMT/Matchbox Mack Cruiseliner COE

 

Turbine Experimental

AMT GMC Astro 95 (T510 from 1971-72)

Edited February 14, 2016 by Force

[Old Buckaroo]

That is awesome - Thank you for posting that.

[Jim B]

That about sums it up!

[Force]

Well I can't take much credit as someone else did most of the legwork, I just added some kits to the list.

[Mr mopar]

This is very interesting .nice work I did not know that there was a cummins v903 in a kit.

[Bgrgbldr]

Force,

Thank you for posting this. I will print it and put it in a safe place for future reference. This just goes to prove the only dumb question is the one you didn't ask.

Gary

[Force]

You're welcome.

There are some engines available in resin also and I have a small list of those.

Auslowe

Cummins N-14
Cummins "Signature Engine" ISX 600
Cummins V-903
Cummins VT-903
Detroit Diesel 6V-71T
Detroit 8V-92
Detroit Series 60
Mack E7
Mack E9
"Yellow" Engine 3406A

Kit Form Services (KFS)

"Yellow" Engine 1693 TA

 

Melbourne Truck Accessories (Now defunct unfortunately)

Detroit Diesel Series 60
Detroit Diesel 8V-92T/TA Front Turbo
Detroit Diesel 8V-92T/TA Rear Turbo
Detroit Diesel 8V-71
Detroit Diesel 12V-71
Detroit Diesel 12V-71T/TA

Sourkraut's Model Trucks  (Seems to be defunct)

Cummins KTA 600
Cummins L-10
Cummins M-11
Cummins V-903
Detroit Diesel 4-71
Detroit Diesel 6-71
Detroit Diesel 6V-92T
Detroit Diesel 12V-71
Mack Thermodyne 6 cyl
Mack E6
Mack E7
Mack E9
"Yellow" Engine 3406A
"Yellow" Engine 3406B

Saurkrauts has more engines done by Auslowe and KFS but I have listed those under their names.

 

P&P Resin Works

Cummins KTA 600
Detroit Diesel 12V-71

Mo'luminum

"yellow" Engine C15
Detroit Diesel 12V-71

 

There are probably more but these are what I have found so far.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Force
Updated the list again

[Jim B]

Håkan, you might as well delete the list from SourKrauts. He's impossible to get a hold of, and he never has anything in stock. I tried to get his L10 & M11 for two years.

[Force]

That's maybe the case, I don't know as I have only bought from him once.
With resin casters you can't take for granted that things are available all the time as they come and go.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Force

[lapazleo]

Great list but here are a few corrections The Cat 3208 in the Ford 8000 is actually a Cat 1160 a fore runner to the 3208. And Cummins ntc 400 non aftercooled in the Italeri kits is actually a Cummins n14. The Cummins ntc 350 and nta 370 in real life are quite different versions of the 855 block most noticable on nta's is the vertical oil cooler.

[Force]

I believe what you say as I myself are not sure...I don't have all the kits listed and I haven't done the kit list, it's just copied (from this forum I think) so someone else has done most of the legwork, I have just added some kits to the list that I have myself and modified it slightly.

I checked the AMT NTA and NTC engines and they have different oil coolers so that's correct...and I'll put in the 1160.

But are you sure on the Italeri kits "no aftercooler NTC 400"??!?

Italeri hasn't been known to do accurate kits in every aspect and they often takes shortcuts here and there...as using the same chassis/engines for several brand trucks that shouldn't have and so on and many of their kits are wrong in several places.

I don't have an Italeri kit with the "no aftercooler NTC 400" (N14) so I can't check in a kit myself, but I just looked in the instructions for the kits in modeltrucks25 fotki albums and the engine looks like an older NTC with a different intake manifold and intercooler pipes to me, the heads and mostly the valve covers doesn't have the distinct square shape that the ones on the newer N14 has, they look to have the older NTA/NTC shape.

So to me it looks like Italeri took the older engine they already had and did some new parts to make it to look more like a N14 because after what I can see it's not an entirely correct N14.

Edited January 11, 2014 by Force

[Arnd]

Hi all

has the N14 an mechanical or electonical injection system? In my oppinion all Italeri engines have the old style mechanic injection pump more or less of a good shape. Perhaps that is a litel help for decinding what type of engine it is.

so long

Arnd

[lapazleo]

I would say a cheesy n 14 not really accurate like you pointed out. Also the n 14 of lower horsepower ratings had a different style valve cover that were stamped not cast. But that intake definately ressembles an n 14.

[TRaymo]

I do believe all N14s are electronically controlled. And on the avaliabilty of a KTA 600 where is the best place to get one?

[Force]

TRaymo: P&P Resinworks has a nice KTA 600 and are the most likely place to get one fairly fast http://www.ppvintagekits.com/

lapazleo: Yes I know some of the N14's had stamped sheet metal rocker covers but they are still square in shape and not shaped like the older NTA-NTC style rocker covers.

Here is a pic of the older style NTA/NTC type Rocker Covers

N14 Rocker Covers, first the cast cover.

And the N14 stamped sheet metal covers.

But the intake they made looks like the ones on the N14 with Intercooler.

[lapazleo]

Like you say a cheesy hybrid. Yes some n14s had the pt mechanical pump

[Bgrgbldr]

Gents,

Now that we have this comprehensive engine list. Which kit engine is closest to the Cummins QSB5.9-155 HP engine and what would I do to replicate it. This is the engine i need for my yard goat project.

Thanks

[lapazleo]

The resin 6.7 would be closest. Two more to add to the list Ertl metal frame Volvo n 12 has a 12l volvo and the Ertl Pete 359 metal frame kit has a poor Detroit 8v92t. Also the Italeri Renault ae magnum has 1/24 Mack e9 v8

[Bgrgbldr]

Can you be more specific? I do not see a 6.7 on the list . Who makes the resin engine you are referring to?

[Force]

I don't know who does a Cummins 6.7 engine, all engines I have listed are for large class 8 trucks, so I don't know what engine he refers to either.

I didn't list European manufacturers as they are'nt that common in USA, Volvos are available in the US but they are US made and are not the same as in Europe.

The old Ertl Volvo is in fact a N10 and has a 10 litre Volvo TD100 Volvo engine, it's very similar to the larger 12 litre Volvo TD120 wich would have been in a N12.
Revell AG did F12's and AMT/Matchbox did a kit labeled F10/F12 and I believe they both have a Volvo TD120.

Heller has a Scania LB 141 with a Scania DS14 V8.

Listing Italeri kits is a bit challenging as they are not completely correct all the time and lately they don't even include an engine anymore in some kits, the last Italeri kit I bought was the Volvo VN780 and it has no engine.
Italeri did Volvo F12's and F16's and all had the same chassis and TD120 wich is wrong for the F16 that should have had a newer Volvo D16 engine, I have never had the newer FH12 and FH16 and models after that so I don't know what engine they have...if any, but they should have a D12 for the FH 12 and D16 for the FH16.

Italeri did Scania 142, and 143 models with the same Scania DS14 V8 engine., the later 143 should have had a DSC14 with Intercooler but didn't, they have also made the later 144 and R series but I have never had any of them so I don't know what engine they have...if they have any, but Scania has a new 16 litre angine called DC16 wich looks completely different to the old DSC14.
I don't have many Italeri kits and has never had except for some kits of the two Swedish makes Volvo and Scania, one Mercedes...and a couple American trucks, so I don't know what kit has what engine...and if it's correct or not as I can't check the kits myself.

Edited January 31, 2014 by Force

[lapazleo]

Whoops meant n 10

[lapazleo]

Can't remember who makes resin 6.7 cummins but it is mentioned somewhere here on the forum.

[Petetrucker07]

I just picked up a glue bomb itsleri 378. Im thinkin of changing the detroit for something else. I was leanin toward a 3408 or 8v-92 detroit, some sort of v-8 diesel. What are my options, kit robbing or resin? Any help is appreciated!