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Yes, they sure are UGLY for 2014. Still looking forward to the new season though, they can redeem themselves somewhat with some staggering performances from the new drivetrains.

The Caterham is the ugliest of them all IMHO:

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The trend started when they did away with the low rear wing a few years back and it has gone steadily down hill every since.

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My understanding is that the appearance these days (the shape) is almost entirely dictated by the results of the computer CFD (computational fluid dynamics) aerodynamic simulation of proposed designs. I'm having a hard time swallowing that these 'drag-reducing' programs are entirely fully developed however, because so many designs just look wrong.

Fiberglass sailplanes, with which I have some experience, are the most aerodynamically efficient machines on Earth. Notice they strangely have no plethora of odd whiffles and projections anywhere...

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FIA is lowering the nose to prevent the cars from launching up and over the car in front after a rear-end crash.

But the teams still want the aerodynamic benifits of the high nose which has been around since the Benneton B192 in 1992, so they've come up with these strange designs.

I think they're better than the stepped nose of the past couple years, but they are still ugly. But then again, the last time I checked they don't give out points and prize money for "best looking car"...

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All very true, but like Bill, I have a lot of exposure to things that fly and the common wisdom is that if it looks right, it flies right. There are exceptions such as the F-117 but those are generally done for a given purpose. These new F1 cars are meeting some really weird rules. The up and flying over a car in a rear end collision is to my eye the contact of two very sticky tires coming in contact with opposed rotational forces. I seriously doubt that the extended proboscises will do much to alleviate that. They just look like very inappropriate appendages. Like the aardvark they serve a very specific purpose and that is just weird.

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So, Greg, are you calling that 'pretty' or 'ugly'? Personally, I think the F-4 Phantom is one of the most testosterone laden, muscular and best looking fighters ever to cruise the skies! Of course, I could be biased; my dad (along with several thousand other guys) built them!

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The Phantom is a series of fixes and can not be called attractive. It is more like a beat up boxer. Aggressive? Yes Clean? Oh, heck no! We use to say that it was proof that if you put a large enough engine on a brick it would go supersonic. The drooping tails and the upturned wing tips were all after designs to fix aero problems with the basic design. This came from an era that transonic flight was not well understood and the flight test program was needed to develop fixes as problems came up. No, the F4 is anything but beautiful, but it is an iconic aircraft. Oh, and when the Tbirds and Angels flew them, they made an outstanding airshow aircraft. Big, noisy, smoky, impressive? Oh yea but never good looking.

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I do agree some of the new F1 cars are rather "Suggestive" :lol: with their looks. All joking aside i like last years car's better, who knows what we're in for next year. Hopefully some of the restriction get lifted and we can see some more pistons. (Just my person preference). And on a side note if you can't contribute something that adds to the conversation please don't post, quality over quantity.

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In my humble opinion, the Lotus 49 and the Tyrrell 03 were the most beautiful F1 cars made.

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They lost their looks when they went front engined, to my mind! Likewise Indycars and dragsters...
I still love the sport though.

Doh! I meant rear engined!

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The Phantom is a series of fixes and can not be called attractive. It is more like a beat up boxer. Aggressive? Yes Clean? Oh, heck no! We use to say that it was proof that if you put a large enough engine on a brick it would go supersonic. The drooping tails and the upturned wing tips were all after designs to fix aero problems with the basic design. This came from an era that transonic flight was not well understood and the flight test program was needed to develop fixes as problems came up. No, the F4 is anything but beautiful, but it is an iconic aircraft. Oh, and when the Tbirds and Angels flew them, they made an outstanding airshow aircraft. Big, noisy, smoky, impressive? Oh yea but never good looking.

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I can't see that doing too well in F1 even with Vettel at the controls...

It has got a brutal elegance in it's clean form I agree.

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So, Greg, are you calling that 'pretty' or 'ugly'? Personally, I think the F-4 Phantom is one of the most testosterone laden, muscular and best looking fighters ever to cruise the skies! Of course, I could be biased; my dad (along with several thousand other guys) built them!

Have to agree with you Dean. I did four years working on the Phantom II '69-'73 in the Navy. However Pete has the answer.But his "Looks right, fly's right" don't always work, I.E. The phantom II

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