AMT Phantom Vickie Transmission?

[Nate]

Can someone tell me what is the transmission that comes in the AMT Phantom Vickie kit? Thanks.

[Chuck Most]

I'm 99% sure it's either a Tremec T-5 or T-45. The powertrain from that kit is patterened after what was used in the mid to late '90's Mustang Cobras.

[Exotics_Builder]

I'm 99% sure it's either a Tremec T-5 or T-45. The powertrain from that kit is patterened after what was used in the mid to late '90's Mustang Cobras.

Chuck is right on. I went downstairs and checked. The engine is what I think was called the modular V-8 in 4.6 liter version from Mustang Cobras (I am not well versed in Ford engines). It has a manual transmission that looks like a Tremec

Edited May 24, 2014 by Exotics_Builder

[freakshow12]

It's the 96-8 4.6 dohc cobra engine mated to the glass jawed t45 5 speed.

[Nate]

So, it's not a good Trans to mate to an LS7?

[Chuck Most]

You could, but if I recall the bellhousing and shifter position would be different for a 1:1 Ford or GM application, depending on how fussy you are about such things.

[Ace-Garageguy]

The Phantom Vic trans is kinda bobular and not an accurate rendition.

In the real world, the T-45 would be fine behind an LS if not subjected to harsh abuse like clutch-dumping and power-shifting.

BUT...the T-45 uses an integral bellhousing design where the front plate of the trans case is part of the bellhousing itself, so mounting to different engines (other than the Ford modular unit) requires aftermarket front-plates, bellhousings, adapters, or custom machine work, etc. I believe there is an OEM bellhousing to bolt it to a 5.0 Ford. On the other hand, on a model, most folks aren't going to notice whether your bellhousing bolt-pattern matches an LS properly, if you elect to cut the trans off of the Ford engine at the block-face. You COULD cut it off at the trans-case face and make up a bellhousing that matches the LS if you want additional accuracy (but really, the accuracy of the trans itself is so poor for a T-45, there's not much point).

Shifter location can be varied fore-aft also by using aftermarket or custom parts as well.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Nate]

Thanks for the info. I was going through my kits looking at which engines I wasn't planning to use, thinking about what might be good to back up the C5 and C6 LS's that I plan to swap into various projects. Would the transmissions from the 06 based Mustangs be good? They look pretty nice, detail wise and I don't plan to use those engines now that the Coyote 5.0 is out.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Nate

[Ace-Garageguy]

I imagine the manual gearbox in your '06 Mustang kit is a Tremec TR-3650. It's basically a redesigned, stronger version of the T-45 it replaced in 2001, and is rated for applications where engine torque is 360 ft/lbs or less. There's also a "remote shifter" version, so you have more latitude as to where you put your shift lever.

Edited May 26, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy

[Danno]

Interesting stuff.

[Ace-Garageguy]

A little more info...the TR3650 is apparently being used in race-cars with 500-600 ft/lbs of engine torque with no ill effects on the gearbox. The 360 ft/lb rating is a conservative factory number to satisfy the lawyers. So if you're building some high-output monster model, there ya' go. Remember though that nothing will withstand constant abuse like clutch-dumping.

Also, the post-2004 "remote shifter" version uses a different case and tailshaft-housing casting, with a shift rail coming out the back, rather than a hole for the mixing lever on top.

Shifter end of the factory 2005 and later "remote-shifter" style. Part of the linkage is supported by the body. Aftermarket shifters tighten up the linkage and offer better action.

Edited May 27, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy