Hillbilly Deluxe Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I just painted 2 bodies,both in testors lacquer. I painted one in italian red and one in chrysler yellow. I cleared the red car in testors clear and the yellow one in tamiya clear. The tamiya clear came out better!!!!! alot better!!!! Can this be true? I might just be sold on tamiya clear! Any thoughts? Thanks John
jbwelda Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 its tamiya dude! im totally addicted to tamiya paint in particular and anything they make in general. tried their putty? great stuff. masking tape? ditto. the problem is my LHS is not getting their stock replenished. i also heard one of the excuses why was they were changing manufacturers. thats rarely a good sign but for now they got the stuff!
Harry P. Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I use both of them, and I can't see any difference in the end result. It does seem that Tamiya clear needs more coats to get that nice smooth shine, but the final result with either one looks great.
curt raitz Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I have had great results with both, have had masking tape (Tamiya's) lift Tamiya's clear on a few occasions... Model Master's UltraClear has proven to be bullet proof...once cured it can take a lot of handling
Peter Lombardo Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 I have tried just about every paint available, spray can and bottle shot thru my airbrush, you are right. The Tamiya paint, even out of the can is great. The clear has a great shine, but.....there is always a butt....My experience with Tamiya clear is that it takes a very, very long time to dry hard enough to handle. I learned my lesson when I almost wiped out the paint on my 67 Charger with the true fire flames with finger prints 10 days after painting the clear coat. That is my only concern, long drying time. I am still looking for the Tamiya product (kit, paint, tools, etc...) that is not the best in their respective field. They just get it!!!
jbwelda Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 i am kind of surprised to hear about the long drying time for tamiya clear; ive polished out the clear after only one day of air drying with no problem. of course that was in california but during the winter, wet and relatively cold (like 45 f outside and it drying inside at 68f or so).
Hillbilly Deluxe Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 I sprayed both cars saturday. The tamiya seems dry enough to handle. The testors clear "fish-eyed" alittle around the wheel wells up front,did I spray it too heavy? John
bobss396 Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 I've been using Tamiya TS13 clear over their paint and Duplicolor. It goes on thin, so you may need a few coats. I've always found it to be fast drying. But then everything in the final paint state goes into the dehydrator. As far as the Testors doing the fish eye thing, just another reason to use something else other than Testors products, just too many inexplicable things that go with them for my liking. Fish eye usually goes with surface contamination of some sort. Bob
stanleymsn Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 To avoid fish eye I wipe my car down with rubbing alcohol it remove any dirt and finger prints and willo also eliminate fish eyes
Billy Kingsley Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 I ONLY use Model Master Lacquer clear. I've tried Tamiya, and it just doesn't cut it. Definitly does not live up to the hype. I don't even own a can anymore, after I used mine up I didn't replace it. I was actually a little surprised at that considering how good their paint is. (I had two cans so I know it was not a fluke bad can) With the MML, it's very easy to lay it on too heavy...I do that a lot If it turns white on the model, you know you've put on too much, and pretty much ruined it. If it turns white, it's pretty much always going to bubble. On the rare instance it doesn't bubble then, it'll run for sure. You'd think with how much I use it, I would have learned not to do that anymore, but I still do it fairly often. Duh! If you do it right, it has the best shine I've seen-on par with the Urethane clear some people use. You just gotta not screw it up, like I usually do! (Did I ever mention that I hate clearcoats, all of them?)
Fuel Coupe Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 Tamiya paints have always been my mainstay. We had to thin it some to run through an air brush. we would put just a few drops of 70% alcohol in the cup and it would lay down slick as glass with very little polish work needed...
Guest Davkin Posted March 2, 2008 Posted March 2, 2008 Txrat, I beleive Hillbilly was talking about the Tamiya spray can clear which is a laquer, (modified enamel really from what I understand) and I believe you are talking about the stuff in bottles which is acrylic. Personally I've never had much luck spraying acrylics so I stay with the laquers. As for Tamiya TS sprays vs MML I beleive there is virtually no difference. There are so many variables involved when spraying paint you can't take a singular experience and draw a definitive conclusion from it. Both are good quality paints and I beleive are equally capable of producing show quality results. I use both all the time, even using one brand clear over another brand paint, usually with excellent results. I used to be a urethane clear guy but was frustrated with the out of scale thickness. While urethane can't be beat for out of the brush shine and smoothness I beleive with just a little polishing of the Tamiya or MML clears a comparable finish is possible and are far less likely to obscure details or produce overly thick panel edges. David
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