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In Topic: MOON BEAST! 12 Cylinder, 2000 HP Drag Strip Terror! 10-21-14

Today, 05:02 AM

I dunno- that doesn't match the box art.  You must have put something together wrong...


Ira, this is really looking neat.  I can imagine this one as an article in Car Model magazine, so many years ago.  Probably in two or three issues.  Thanks :) !

In Topic: r/m 67 Camaro..... Outlaw..of course...

Today, 04:58 AM

Wow.  You are one productive modeler.  How do you do it, especially with the quality of your work and detail?

In Topic: Name That TV Show

Yesterday, 10:32 AM

Keeping with the car theme, and whoe DOESN'T love an Austin Seven??

All Creatures Great and Small?

In Topic: Curious; why are there so few tuner classes at a lot of model shows/contests?

Yesterday, 10:08 AM

I lurk here and I finally had to register because of this topic.  Tom is completely correct.  Guys who build tuner cars get runned off.  We're not just punk kids, nor is the tuner community dying.  It's gotten a lot more specialized, and a lot more sophisticated, so it doesn't have the visibility that it had back when Fast and the Furious was a new thing.  Keep in mind the cars in the Fast and the Furious were already out of date when the movie came out, so when print publications did print a tuner in their show coverage (it was always in the show coverage, never in features) the car was "inspired by the Fast and the Furious movies," it was insulting to us regular tuner car modelers.  Things have changed a LOT in the decade and a half since that movie came out.  But the tuner car hobby and movement and community is just as strong as ever.


Don't believe me?  That's fine.  There's another, just as vibrant forum out there that only in the last few years added a subforum specifically for muscle cars and hotrods because people were complaining that they weren't represented well among the Euro cars and tuner cars.  There are companies out there constantly introducing new and awesome kits, transkits, and detail parts specifically for tuner cars.  Google Eightyone81.  Hobby Design.  C1 Models.  Aoshima keeps introducing kits of older, iconic tuner cars (they are pairing with BeeMax to do an EF Civic, which will be an easily convertible motorsport subject) as well as brand new, super trendy cars like the Rocket Bunny modified FR-S that took the tuner community by storm this last spring (they did two runs of this kit and sold out within a couple weeks each time).  It's ok if you don't know what Rocket Bunny is - but please keep in mind that just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.  


It's really frustrating when people dismiss the little Japanese cars as a "fad" for people who can't afford anything else.  I promise you, my 1:1 project Civic makes my wife as mad as anyone's.  It's just a different flavor, and telling people your ice cream is the best and everyone else's is ok if that's all they can afford is pretty off-putting.  I like my rocky road as much as you like your vanilla bean.  I've dedicated a LOT of my energies to rocky road, thank you very much.


Just like the 1:1 "tuner" community, the model tuner community is growing.  It's growing in size and sophistication.  It's growing in interest as us young punk kids come inside and calm down long enough to build a model.  I think a lot of y'all would be shocked to see what's out there.  What's available in kits and parts, and what's being built.  But the attitudes in this thread are a really great example of why tuners don't show up at the model show, or meet, or on the street.  We're tired of the derisive looks and the absolute lack of respect.  I just moved to a new city and tomorrow I'm going to a Build-n-Bull at the local hobby shop to check out the community here.  I was excited about it.  Now I dread the inevitable reaction from all the "real" builders out there making muscle cars and hotrods when I pull out my Fujimi EK4 kit.  Thanks a lot.

You have to realize that just about every type of car that "car guys" (male and female, no offense to anyone) can, do or have appreciated has had it's day in the sun and will make a comeback.  Read through Hot Rod magazine for the past 5 decades.  I just got the last issue and they are writing about... vans with shag carpeting and mini pick-ups!  Yep, both had their day, but they're coming around again!  It's difficult to find a magazine that features mainly American cars without seeing a retro- '60's gasser featured.  Flatheads were once thought dead ,due to the small-block Chevy.  Not anymore, by a long shot- and a lot of them wind up in some real cool old stuff- and I don't mean "rat rods".


Model trends tend to follow the real world of cars; maybe lagging a bit.  Most car model builders- actually, most model builders- will accept any kind of modelers into the fold, so to speak, as long as that modeler shows the same respect and acceptance that he or she is shown.  The LIARS Challenge added a Euro/Tuner class many years ago to accomodate those entries that didn't have a true home.  Though the interest waned, I believe the class still exists.  And I'm not saying that "no one builds tuners" or that anyone who does is a "punk kid", but maybe the genre is not as popular as it once was and/or as big as you wish it were.  Not too long ago, the NASCAR categories were packed full of colorful entries- not anymore.  Same with Pro Street- yep, there were contests that had separate categories for them- not anymore.  Light commercial, a personal favorite, has declined in popularity, as has heavy commercial.  But that's how these things go.


If you want to be heard and have your style of build be represented at contests, perhaps you can contact those who sponsor shows or contests in your area, even real car shows or cruise-ins.  Be friendly, be courteous, be respectable and be serious.  If you belong to a club or just hang out with others who build tuners, get together with them, take some pictures of your builds and present them to those who you're gonna contact.  Better yet, bring a few builds to show them in person.  Don't worry about the reaction.  I once brought a car model to a club contest that was 99.99999% military- and raised a few eyebrows, but heard no grumbling.  I took home a ribbon that night.  That was 32 years ago.  Now, the military models that compete in the mostly model car contests that I attend draw a lot of attention, too; in a model-builder, respectable way- and a lot of their builders also build model cars.  A bunch of guys from my club back on LI used to gather at a LHS on Friday evenings.  He sold model railroad stuff, ergo, model railroaders would also come in.  We appreciated their incredibly well-detailed-and-built works of art as much as they appreciated ours. 


You can't let the negative minority get to you (I had originally, mistakenly written "majority"... oops)

In Topic: Curious; why are there so few tuner classes at a lot of model shows/contests?

Yesterday, 09:35 AM

They just aren't as popular as they used to be. Seems like the tuner fad has peaked and is now fading.

Kinda like pro street; the tables were once full of them.  NASCAR, too.