bobthehobbyguy Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I have BMF down fairly well except for doing wing windows. I have trouble with getting wrinkles when I do them. Any body have any tips on the best way to do them? Thanks in advance for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I have BMF down fairly well except for doing wing windows. I have trouble with getting wrinkles when I do them. Any body have any tips on the best way to do them? Thanks in advance for any help. Really, the only tip I can give you is take your time. The vent windows are the worst thing to foil in my opinion. Try doing them in several pieces. Start with a small piece for the horizontal portion @ the bottom, then a large piece for the A pillar, then a piece for the vent pillar. just keep in mind, if you do it in pieces, to keep your seams in the corners or places where they would be on the 1:1. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T. Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Or try this - First, color the window frame with a silver Sharpie. Then cut a rectangle of BMF, big enough to span the entire vent window frame and burnish down with a cotton swab and toothpick. Now, with your brand-new Xacto #11 blade, cut around the frame. Another thing I've found is that I don't pay attention to the paint quality on the vent window frame (don't sand and polish it like the rest of the car), so make sure there are no boogers or texture in your paint on the frame. If so, remove them and hide with the Sharpie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Or try this - First, color the window frame with a silver Sharpie. Then cut a rectangle of BMF, big enough to span the entire vent window frame and burnish down with a cotton swab and toothpick. Now, with your brand-new Xacto #11 blade, cut around the frame. Another thing I've found is that I don't pay attention to the paint quality on the vent window frame (don't sand and polish it like the rest of the car), so make sure there are no boogers or texture in your paint on the frame. If so, remove them and hide with the Sharpie. I sort of do a similar thing except I go around when I'm done foiling & touch up any really tiny bare spots with a dab of "chrome silver" paint. You're right about the finish. It's a good idea to do a little light sanding on the vent windows & such before you foil. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfins59 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I have trouble foiling the thin straight piece of vent windows and usually just paint them with chrome silver paint. As Steven does, I also touch up any bare spots with the chrome silver paint too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I do each leg of a vent window separately, and after I work the foil down, I cut the excess away at the corners diagonally--been doing that since the 70's, so it works for me. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I do each leg of a vent window separately, and after I work the foil down, I cut the excess away at the corners diagonally--been doing that since the 70's, so it works for me. Art I do the same. & then fold the excess around to the backside. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfins59 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I try to do the same as Art and Steven but those pesky, thin straight pieces usually give me some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 Thanks guys you've given me some helpful tips. Sounds like I will have to do a few more to get the hang of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The best way to foil wing windows is with one piece that covers the entire frame. It takes some patience. But, it looks so much nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The best way to foil wing windows is with one piece that covers the entire frame. It takes some patience. But, it looks so much nicer. You'll never know the difference or see the seams if you're strategic about where you place them. I do it both ways depending on my mood & doing it in pieces is easier & will save foil as an added bonus. If it's done correctly, it'll look good either way. This one was done in peices. See if you can spot the seams. (Click on the photo to blow it up) Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 You'll never know the difference or see the seams if you're strategic about where you place them. I do it both ways depending on my mood & doing it in pieces is easier & will save foil as an added bonus. If it's done correctly, it'll look good either way. This one was done in peices. See if you can spot the seams. (Click on the photo to blow it up) Steve Oh.... You got a '59 and '60 Mercury too? Very nice. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Oh.... You got a '59 and '60 Mercury too? Very nice. Scott Sure Scott. I posted photos of it a while back. You can check out my Fotki page if you'd like. There's 20-25 of my more recent builds on there. Steve http://public.fotki.com/stevenguthmiller/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You'll never know the difference or see the seams if you're strategic about where you place them. I do it both ways depending on my mood & doing it in pieces is easier & will save foil as an added bonus. If it's done correctly, it'll look good either way. This one was done in peices. See if you can spot the seams. (Click on the photo to blow it up) Steve I see two vertical seams on the rear post. One at the top corner. One at the bottom corner. If I could view it in person, I could spot every seam. I can on my models anyway. I used to think a single piece was wasting foil. But, it isn't. Three strips of foil will be roughly the same area as one triangular shape. I've done it both ways. The single piece has a much better appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I see two vertical seams on the rear post. One at the top corner. One at the bottom corner. If I could view it in person, I could spot every seam. I can on my models anyway. I used to think a single piece was wasting foil. But, it isn't. Three strips of foil will be roughly the same area as one triangular shape. I've done it both ways. The single piece has a much better appearance. Aha! You're wrong! there is no vertical seam at the top of the rear post, there's a horizontal one. The point is, you're going to have seams on the model regardless, unless you're doing your windshield & rear window trim in one piece. As I said, I do them both ways also. I find very little difference in the finished product. To each his own I guess. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks for the information. I have preference for using one piece for the wing windows. Going to close this topic because everything has been covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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