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#21 Tom Geiger

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

Rich, why all the passion on '58s?  I'm a '58 myself, coming into this world in September 1958. In my case, I the '59s were coming down the line on the day I was born, so I collect '59s.  



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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

Hey Tom......  I just think that ALL of the cars from the 50's are cool, but for some reason I like the looks and styling of the 58's best.  I love all the "chrome-laden land yachts".  While I'm "on a mission" at the present time to build as many of the 58's as I can, once I've gone as far as I can go on them, I'll pick another year from the 50's and try to build as many of the cars from that year, and so on, until I have a pretty large collection of 50's models built.  I just bought a '58 Edsel with the continental kit online, and I'll be picking up a '58 Oldsmobile from The Modelhaus at the NNL East in April (I preordered it).  I have a '58 T-Bird and Corvette in my stash yet to build.  There are a few more '58's that Modelhaus makes that I want, but I only treat myself to their stuff 2X a year......my Birthday (April) and Christmas.  I'd also like to find an IMEX '58 Cadillac kit.  Between plastic kits and resin offerings I've got a lot of work ahead of me on all the great 50's cars..  

 

I really like the '59's too, as you do, and have already built a Chevy, a Dodge and an Imperial.  I also just bought a '59 Caddy online too.  The '59 Buick is on my wish list too.

 

Then I've got a few '56 cars to build...  an Oldsmobile and Pontiac (Promos), Chevy DelRay & Nomad and a Ford.   Then there are the 57's...  and so on...  down the line.

 

By the way,I'm hoping to post more progress pictures of this Plymouth tomorrow.  I polished the clearcoat, painted the interior headliner and finished detailing the engine compartment pieces today.  Tomorrow will be BMF day and hopefully some assemblage.  .



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

That insert looks awesome and adds so much character to this car.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

Well it's great to see that this Forum is up and running again.  I finished the BMF on this Plymouth and it kicked my butt for some reason.  I had to redo it in a couple of spots but it came out great.  I used a sheet of foil that my friend Mike, who I built the Rambler for, gave me, and this is probably the SHINIEST BMF I've ever used...... it almost looks like chrome plating..!!!

 

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I also detailed the interior headliner with some flat gray paint, flat white on the visors, and BMF strips.

 

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I'm itching to just throw this thing together but I'm restraining myself to be patient so it comes out neat and clean...Slow and steady wins the race.  Today I'll glue in the front and rear glass, and do some touch ups on the interior side panel flocking.  The engine compartment pieces are all painted and detailed, ready for installation.  I even added valve stems to the wheels.  It won'y be very much longer and this baby will be done.

 

I duplicated the side view picture so here's a picture from the rear

 

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Edited by Ramfins59, 19 February 2013 - 08:30 AM.


#25 Tom Geiger

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:25 AM

Looks good Rich!  Take your time and do it justice!

 

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Here's a reference picture for ya!

 

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And here's the work I started..



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

Thanks Matthew and Tom.  Tom, thanks for the reference picture but I think you should have sent that one to Dr. Cranky instead...LOL.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

That white looks great with the foiling on it! Very nice!



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:18 PM

Thanks a lot Grant. The foil really helps the plain white sparkle.  After looking at these pictures I touched up the side trim insert on the right front fender. When I trimmed the BMF I didn't notice at the time that I pulled up the clearcoat and the aluminum paint underneath it... my new XActo blade must have cut through the clearcoat.

 

The front and rear glass went in today and I touched up the interior flocking along with doing some more detailing on the engine compartment pieces.  This is going to look pretty cool when finished.

 

Thanks for looking in on it.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:21 PM

Y'know, even with the problems that kit has proportionally and to a point, shape-wise, once the body starts coming together, it doesn't look too bad.

 

Nice clean build, Rich.

 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

Its sure coming along nicely, I like how you took a different approach rather than red and white.... like i did.... 



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:52 PM

I have 2 of this kit 1 standard issue & 1 W-M Value Decorated,(Won't say Pro-Shop on those Wally's only issues)

and untill reading the reports here about the body I did not know it was so bad.

Yes the Pre-painted one is white over red!! Oh well.

Maybe I can fake a tabletop to assemble it!!

 

I Do like this solid White one

 

I can understand the getting on e single year build streak.

Or a single subject idea or many of ONE item

I have several 59's in progress myself. Not many 58's, though I do have 10-15 of the

Modern tool EDSEL Pacer!! Many projects started with those.

Other 58's I have are AMT's Impala, an Original Buick Roadmaster convertible to restore,

and one resin Fairlane 500 that was converted from the AMT 57. Opening doors and all


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

Rich, why all the passion on '58s?  I'm a '58 myself, coming into this world in September 1958. In my case, I the '59s were coming down the line on the day I was born, so I collect '59s.  

 

Actually Tom, there were still shiny brand new '58's on the dealer's lots when you came along! I like to get things '61............even though my birthday's in October and the '62's would have been intro'd (or about to be), there were still plenty of new '61's waiting for someone to take them home. So those of us born around new model year intro time, we got the best of both worlds as we can collect two model years at the same time! :lol:

 

Rich that '58 is lookin' mighty good! Inaccurate proportions notwithstanding, this is turning into a beautiful car!


Edited by MrObsessive, 20 February 2013 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:48 AM

 So those of us born around new model year intro time, we got the best of both worlds as we can collect two model years at the same time! :lol:

 

 

Good point Bill!  That doubles the weight of my shelf! :D   Actually there is a '58 Chevy pickup advertised locally here that I keep trying not to go see...  I've always liked the '55-57 era pickups, especially since there is a kit.  So I go one year newer.  



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:57 AM

Thank you so very much Charlie, James, Daniel and Bill.  

 

Charlie, like I stated at the beginning of this thread, the slight inaccuracies, etc. (to me) of this kit don't bother me one little bit.  I'm just happy to have a kit of a '58 Plymouth.

 

Yeah James, I like to be a little different with my builds rather than just doing the "same old - same old" builds.

 

Daniel I think I'll be building the '58 Edsel with the continental kit next, when this Plymouth is finished.  I ordered one from Model Roundup and it just shipped today.

 

Bill I truly appreciate your kind words... it means a lot coming from a builder of your caliber.  

 

Thanks again to all for following along on this build.  I think today I'll be able to finish up and assemble the interior as I received the dash gauge face panel in yesterday's mail from Kevin (Magnum4342).  Thanks again buddy...!!!  

 

It's looking like this little girl will be finished up by this weekend...  hopefully.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

Looks great, Rich! Hope to see it in the finished models section, if not already there.

 

Here's a '58 Fury... just cause they look so darn cool! 

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

Nice build!



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

I am a 61 model year myself and Yes I have a few to finish, build, and restore!!

4-21-61. So they were in Full swing, or only just beginning to taper off to begin

tooling up for the new 62's to come out that Sept.

 

And I AM looking for Original Annuals never re-issued!!

I need to check my stash to see what I have there!!

 

Glad to confirm what you feel about building!!

 

And I Do like That 58 Pacer!!

Have 10-20 of them for Projects!!

I did post them in the Primer thread!!


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

Thanks Jon.  I agree... they do look pretty darn cool.

 

Derick, there's nothing stopping you from picking another "earlier" year...

 

Thanks very much Shane.

 

Daniel...  so many models - - so little time..!!  Yes I saw your Primered cars.

 

 

I made some more progress today.  The interior is assembled.  I trimmed the dashboard gauge panel to fit. glued it in with some Elmer's, and put some clear epoxy over it for a lens panel.  I also added a drop of epoxy to the center of the steering wheel.  The more I looked at everything, the more I got carried away with adding little details.

 

You can see through the bottom of the interior because the firewall is not attached yet.

 

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All the engine compartment pieces have been detailed and are ready for installation once the body and chassis assembly are joined...

----- The firewall is paint detailed, holes have been drilled for hoses, a brake line has been added to the master cylinder, and a couple of PE bolt heads were attached.

----- The radiator and support piece have been painted, an aluminum radiator cap was added and an overflow line runs from the radiator cap to the overflow container.

----- Horns are painted.

----- The battery has been paint detailed and cables have been added.

----- Rubber upper and lower radiator hoses are ready.  The upper one has PE hose clamps attached.  The lower one doesn't because it probably won't be seen (if it doesn't give me too much trouble installing it that is...)

----- The vacuum canister has hoses attached and silver paint used to indicate clamps.  The hoses will be trimmed a bit shorter when installed in the car.

----- Heater hoses are ready for installation, also with silver paint for clamps and they also will be trimmed when installed.

----- The underside of the hood has charcoal flocking applied for underhood insulation.  It has been "sealed" with a coat of brushed on dullcoat so it doesn't "shed" all over the engine compartment. 

 

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I'm hoping with fingers, toes, legs and eyes crossed that everything goes together smoothly when it comes time to fit the chassis / engine / interior assembly into the body.  At first look it appears that it will be "tight" and I hope nothing breaks or that no paint chips off.  If it happens, it happens and I'll deal with it.

 

Thanks for following along.  It won't be long (I hope) for this pretty little lady to have her "coming out party".



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

have you considered using BMF on the horn ring?



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:04 AM

Yes Mike, I've considered it... but I just find it easier and safer to just paint it chrome silver than to try to foil such a small and delicate part. I also just use chrome silver paint on thin steering column shifter and turn signal levers and the thin vent window upright pieces.