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#21 southpier

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

... so please feel free to.. PM me with any questions....

 

not a big fan of the PM. any class or seminar i have ever attended encouraged questions in open discussion. even to the point that the instructor would repeat the question, so that everyone would benefit by the response.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:05 AM

would that be difficult to create?

 

You'd need to ask and discuss that with Harry and/or Gregg.

 

i think it would only foster knowledge, and probably help out some of the many cottage industries serving the hobby.

 

We already have a Resin & Aftermarket section for aftermarket products and getting the word out, but does a book fit there? A DVD? I think so, even if due to the lack of a better, more specific place here on the forum to put such products. In my eyes, books, DVDs, and similar items are tools you acquire and use to build better models, so while they aren't typical model parts, conversions, or decals, they serve the same general purpose- helping you improve upon what's included inside a pre-packaged model kit. 



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:31 AM


not a big fan of the PM. any class or seminar i have ever attended encouraged questions in open discussion. even to the point that the instructor would repeat the question, so that everyone would benefit by the response.

 

You have the ability to post an questions or comment you like in the topic I linked to if you have something to say about selling here on the forum.

 

Virgil's post isn't considered selling. He never mentioned any price info and according to the facebook page he linked to, the book isn't even out yet.

 

I don't recall anyone having a problem when Kevin from Missing Link posted prices for his '71 Olds notchback conversion kit in the Resin & Aftermarket section and his post needed to be edited to conform to the no price/selling rule. Listen, I get that some people don't care for Virgil's desire to share things he's into and wants to promote, and the way he chooses to do that. He's followed the forum rules, and we've tried as best we can to define what is and isn't considered selling here on the forum. There will never be an absolute definition, and will never be a day when everyone is satisfied by how selling is defined here, but the general rule is don't state any prices, provide an off-site link when possible, and don't be blatant with your post. If people want to call favoritism, fine, but they should at least be fair and apply the same rules and standards they personally apply to Virgil's posts as everyone else's, including their own.

 

Now, I don't mean to throw Kevin under the bus at all. I used his recent post as an example of what people shouldn't post and to point out there are more obvious posts regarding selling here on the forum than what Virgil posted. Kevin and Missing Link make great stuff, and I will vouch for it as a customer, so I just wanted to make that clear.

 

I don't mind editing people's posts which list prices and/or offer to buy and sell (jn the Trade/Wanted sections for example) so that they conform the forum rules, but continuing to take thinly veiled shots at a member and his posts when what that member posts is fully within the rules helps nobody. If you don't like a member's posts, fine, read it, roll your eyes, and move on. If you think what's posted is not within the forum rules, PM me or post a reply, but when it's been addressed before, especially when it's in response to one particular member's posts, don't continue to accuse a fellow member of something which is neither true nor accurate and only adds drama. Gregg's said many times that he doesn't want the drama here, and I agree 100%.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:58 AM

my main question is, if it is just portfolio book (aka pictures i have seen on the internet or live), or real modeling book stuffed by step by step weathering articles !?!?

 

This is book that has about 8 builders, including Chuck Doan, and a number of others and it is a HOW-TO with lots of step-by-step.  When you say "stuffed," what I think you mean is that the book has lots of INSTRUCTION and EYE CANDY, which it does.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

Agree, I would like to see the contents before dropping the dough for it.

 

Bob, the only way I think you might be able to see the whole book is if you luck out and find it at a show or a at a book store.  AK-INTERACTIVE's USA distributor travels around in the North East.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:05 AM

Dr. Cranky,

 

I've been watching your videos...they are great!!!

 

I have a very serious question though:

 

If you were to advise someone who is coming back to the hobby after a 25 year hiatus, and they could only buy one of the two books, which book would you advise them to buy?

 

I've always loved weathered models, trains, planes, military and automotive, and desperately want to start, which book is best for learning how?

 

Your book, or this new one?   

 

 

Jeff, just to clarify for the purposes of this forum.  My original post was only to ALERT people of the impending release of the book, NOT TO SELL THE BOOK.  It's not my book, it's edited by Carlos Cuesta who works for AK-INTERACTIVE.  The book is made up of step-by-step articles written by several builders, including DOOZY in Japan and Chuck Doan in the United States.

 

You will get your money's worth with this book.  Marc Reusser's how-to alone is worth the price of admission.

 

Buying books or DVDs or whatever INSTRUCTION you are seeking only adds to your arsenal of tools.  Not everyone needs to invest money in these things, but books and DVDs or videos will cut your learning curve and really help you focus on some out-of-the-norm techniques.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:16 AM

l never thought rust was exciting.


Hilarious.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

 

 

Jeff, just to clarify for the purposes of this forum.  My original post was only to ALERT people of the impending release of the book, NOT TO SELL THE BOOK.  It's not my book, it's edited by Carlos Cuesta who works for AK-INTERACTIVE.  The book is made up of step-by-step articles written by several builders, including DOOZY in Japan and Chuck Doan in the United States.

 

You will get your money's worth with this book.  Marc Reusser's how-to alone is worth the price of admission.

 

Buying books or DVDs or whatever INSTRUCTION you are seeking only adds to your arsenal of tools.  Not everyone needs to invest money in these things, but books and DVDs or videos will cut your learning curve and really help you focus on some out-of-the-norm techniques.

 

Thanks, Doc!!!!

 

The very day that you started a thread about this, I had the AK website pulled up, and literally, was about to hit the 'buy' button. I was interrupted, and thought that I would buy it later in the day. When I got back to the computer, I checked the forum before going back to AK's site, and saw your new thread.

 

Thank you for getting back to me. I still don't know which book to buy. Money isn't growing on trees around here, especially this month. Telling the wife that I now want to spend the better part of a Benjamin on two books really wouldn't be prudent or wise.

 

Again, thanks!



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:41 AM

Jeff, here's a trick I learned a while back.  If you ever want to get a book to check it out, go to your public library or school library a make a case to the librarian for ordering it for the library.  They listen to their customers indeed.  Once they get it, you check it out as many times as you like.  And it's all FREE.



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:03 AM

 
Bob, the only way I think you might be able to see the whole book is if you luck out and find it at a show or a at a book store.  AK-INTERACTIVE's USA distributor travels around in the North East.


Thanks Doc, Sorry if I might have come off Obstinate if I did. My sincere apologies if so. After watching your many videos online & knowing the work of the other modelers in the publication as well from other media forums are a tribute to the hobby of Modeling alone, I believe this book would make a nice addition to any modelers collection!
Thank you for your reply!

Edited by Gramps2u, 08 April 2013 - 06:06 AM.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:47 AM

Bob, one of the things that we strive to do (have always done) in the Lab-RAT-ory is RECOGNIZE and HIGHLIGHT other builders' models, in particular from all over the world.  The talent out there is amazing.  Of course, here in the United States, builders continue to break the mold and have--in the last several decades--pushed the hobby into new heights.

 

No need to apologize, my friend.  It's a hobby we all need to enjoy to the fullest.  When and if the time ever comes when I cannot build models, I will still enjoy the hobby and the amazing work out there by simply watching.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:42 PM

Jeff, here's a trick I learned a while back.  If you ever want to get a book to check it out, go to your public library or school library a make a case to the librarian for ordering it for the library.  They listen to their customers indeed.  Once they get it, you check it out as many times as you like.  And it's all FREE.

 

That is a good idea, Doc.

 

I might try it, but my local library isn't too keen on ordering books that their customers want. Sad, but true.



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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:20 PM

Often the local branch might not order it, but the main branch might, or a school library.  Again, you might have to be a bit more insistent, or charm the acquisitions librarian.



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

Dr. Cranky,

 

I tried looking for the book in the surrounding libraries, so I tried our local library since I was supposed to be there anyway.

 

I asked the head librarian about buying the book, and she looked at me like I was high on crack.

 

You see, our local library wanted to build a new $36 million dollar facility in the middle of a flood plain, and then spent $150,000 on a marketing campaign trying to sell the idea to the public. They then exercised an option on some land, at a reported $100,000, and an untold amount on architectural drawings, scale models, and the like.

 

In the mean time, the library tossed about 1/2 of the books in the stacks, trying to pretend that there was a real 'need' for a new library. The shelves look like a ghost town...I kid you not.

 

The new library went to vote last fall, and the public voted it down 3 to 1.

 

Now the library says that they don't have enough money to pay the employees, and may have to shut down to save money, and therefore, have not a dime to buy any new books.



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:35 PM

Oh, Doc, I forgot to mention that I tried to find the book via inter-library loan.

 

Of all the libraries that participate in the inter-library system that she was using, there is a single library...I am not making this up...in Spain that has your book.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:05 AM

Jeff, that's all you need.  Of course, it's going to take a while for the book to reach you, but at least you did your research.  Bravo.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:44 AM

LOL!!!



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:47 PM

Well, dang it.

 

After much contemplation, I decided to buy the Doctor's book. I am fascinated with building junkers. One reason I quit building cars when I was a teenager was because, at the time, back in the 80's, no one was building rusty cars, and everyone I talked to acted like I was a 3 eyed monster when I talked about weathering a car.

 

I switched to military tanks and WWII aircraft, and never looked back. I did attempt building a junker sometime around '94, but it was pretty much an utter failure because I was only using the paints I had on hand that was left over from my teenage years.

 

I just tried to buy the good Doctor's book, and it is sold out.

 

I am disappointed. I have a kit in the mail right now, and was getting super excited about this build. 

 

Back to square one. 


Edited by clovis, 14 April 2013 - 03:47 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:02 AM

The book should be in hobby shops by next week, and it's VERY well done!  But, you gotta like dirt and rust.  I do. 



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:09 AM

Copies have been shipping to the States already.  I suspect this book is going to inspire a whole new generation of model car builders into creating some rusty and weathered gems.