alangarber Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Any and all specs would be great I cannot find a thing on dementions for this truck. I have a lot of cab work done by pics but the rest is a mystery. ">http://http://s231.photobucket.com/user/alangarber/media/TheDefiancetruck-vi.jpg.html'>
Jim B Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Well, in 1942, the P51 was powered by either an Allison V-1710, or a Rolls-Royce Merlin (P51B/C). Both are liquid-cooloed V12 engines. The P51D was powered by a Packard V-1650-7, which was a licensed copy of the Merlin.
1930fordpickup Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 http://www.flickr.com/photos/7552532@N07/2170032045/in/photostream/ This is a different View of the truck and a different color.
Force Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 The picture you link to Andy is when the original owner/builder Jerald McBee had it, Tyrone Malone bought it from him later and had it repainted pink. I'm affraid you have to "wing it" Alan because I haven't found any good information on this truck other than it's 21 feet 6½ inches total length, has the Allison 1710, an Allison 5 speed automatic and a Timkin rear end. Most likely it also has a V-drive or a drop box style gear to change the drive to the rear axle considering the engine placement as the power outtake is towards the cab, and I believe it's only the last axle that drives.
Superpeterbilt Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Alan, Idk if it will help but there was a White 3000 coe race truck called " the bad brahma bull" that also had an allison V12 mounted the same way. That truck had the motor sitting on the bare frame without all of the bodywork around it. You might be able to see how the driveline is set up. They did that because the engine rotation is opposite from norm. Most likely it was just a transfer case. Im sure I have a few if you want to go that route. Have you tried to contact the current owner for info?
Force Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) The "Bad Brahma Bull" White has the engine in front of the drive axle but the Defiance has it right above the drive axle so somekind of transfer box / drop box / V-Drive is needed to transfer the power to the drive axle. The Allison 1710 was available as both right or left hand rotation versions and if you take off the propeller reduction gear not needed for this aplication the crank shaft turns the opposite way the propeller did as the reduction gear only has two gear wheels...a small on the crank shaft and a larger on the propeller shaft. Edited May 29, 2014 by Force
Jantrix Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 I would try to contact the builder, you can find anybody theses days. You'd be surprised how receptive some of the old time racers/builders are to curious builders.
scale trucker Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 the tyrone malone web site used to have good pics..try that
alangarber Posted May 30, 2014 Author Posted May 30, 2014 I got all the pics I could find on that site. I also tried to contact someone on his site when I was doing the Hideout truck, but never got any reply back. I was mostly looking for details on interior color and frame color ect. I can go by pics. This is a longer project as some parts are hard to locate.
Old Buckaroo Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 This is a longer project as some parts are hard to locate. Yes but I am sure it will be Super once you get going on it !
Force Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Ken Harris, the owner of the http://www.tyronemalone.net and http://public.fotki.com/superboss1/ websites has changed email as he lost the password to his hotmail, so he has a new one now, it's shermantank35@gmail.com and I contacted him not that long ago...Ken also has a Facebook site with lots of pictures and information https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tyrone-Malone-and-the-Bandag-diesel-racing-team/189062841121878 He might be able to help you contact the current owner of the Defiance Gary Reis at Stagecoach Diesel Motorsports Museum. Gary also owns the Super Boss, the Papa Truck, the Hideout Truck, the Smokey Bear Corvette, the Old Blue whale truck, and I think he has bought the Boss Truck of America too.
scummy Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Tonight in my garage i found an old overdrive magazine , February 1980 . It has a couple of photos but not of the interior , it does say that it has a full custom built belly pan . Is the rear wheel guard the same as the amt turnpiker pete ? .
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