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Nice clean build! The two tone white and black interior really makes the interior pop. Yeah, definitely a good reissue candidate since we haven't seen the ('72) in quite awhile.
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Some are worse than others and this is one of them. Remember, this is a BRAND NEW tool for 2020. Why are we having these noticeable problems with windscreen height on a 60 year car? It just doesn't make sense unless they phoned it in to their Chinese tooling designer counterparts in China. Unfortunately, the sentiment around here seems to be, "it's good enough". ?
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Yeah, the real car used same roof stamping as the '70-'72 Monte Carlo. Or, rather the Monte Carlo used the same roof stamping as the Grand Prix which came out in the '69MY. Chassis could be made to work as well since the wheelbase on the Grand Prix was 118" versus 116" for the Monte Carlo.
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I can appreciate the incredible skill of your beautiful build of the Hasagawa kit. I understand, as most builders, you can acquire an emotional attachement to the build because you spent a lot of time on it and did a fantastic job. Still, that doesn't give the Hasegawa kit a free pass on the slight proportion problem it suffers from in the upper greenhouse section of the side windows.
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This is where Round 2 could step in and corner the U.S. market by releasing both new and vintage old tools based on 1/25th scale. I hope they invest in some new tooling in the future. It'll be like the old days when we had AMT/Lensey and MPC/General Mills. The interesting thing about that era is while AMT/MPC annuals and reissues seemed to fly off the shelves, those old Monogram/Revell 1/24th scale kits seem to languish forever on the shelves of the LHS's I used to visit. Yes, it's definitely a global market and the U.S.market has to take a back seat for the rest of word right now according to Revell.
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Why not just make them all 1/25th scale or 1/24th scale, then? What's the point in having two scales so closely related mathematically? I'm thinking it has something more with the way to tooling was made from the pantographed down wooden/plaster bucks back in the old days, but I may be wrong. Do they make 1/32 scale and 1/33 scale models? No. The closest I've seen is 1/34 or 1/36 scale on some obsure diecast models. Do they make 1/48 scale and 1/49 scale models? No. They just have 1/48 scale. Now, before anyone comes swooping in mentioning 1/16 and 1/18 scale. Well, 1/18 is primarily a favorite of diecast manufacturers since I haven't seen too many plastic model kits made in that scale. It's primarily 1/16 scale for plastic, but there are few exceptions here and there Also, there is no 1/16 and 1/17 scale or 1/16 and 1/15 scale models. See what I mean? That's the frustrating part of it. The scales are so closely related yet so different when you display two models together in those scales. There are lot of models in 1/24th scale I would love to buy, but I don't because they don't display well with my other 1/25 model cars. Sometimes, I like to display them togther and put them side by side to compare differences in model years and car models. You can't really do that with 1/24th and 1/25th scale models. If you do, it just looks weird. It's not so much being a scale snob, but why the concentration on the 1/24th scale market when they were making serious inroads and successful ROI in the 1/25th market? It's rather obvious Revell is catering more to the Euroropean market than the U.S market right now. However, why neglect the U.S. market? We U.S. buyers/builders like models too and we would love to see them invest in 1/25th scale again.
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Well, no offense please, but maybe you don't want to see it? The driver's side window (the only side we can see on the Hasegawa model) looks slightly shorter in vertical height and more elongated after the front vent window pane than the real car or the Revell snap.
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Look carefully at the upper window line where it goes back to the rear quarter window on the Hasegawa kit and compare it to the real car that I posted a pic of. You still think the Hasagawa kit is exactly like the real car? I don't know about you, but there's something wonky about the gentle curve on the upper side window line on the Hasagawa kit compared to the real car . The real car has a gentle curve to it which gets more noticeable or slanted as it goes back over the rear quarter side window. The Hasagawa kit looks straighter and doesn't slope as much like the gentle sloped curve on the real car. It straighter profile gives it a slightly elongated chop top look more so than the real car has. It's slight, but you can see it plain as day. The Revell snap kit is much better in this area.
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The windscreen looks chopped to me. With the technology available today, they should be getting the basic proportions dead nuts right on a freaking 60 year old car. Well, at least it's happening with their 1/24th scale stuff. If and when they ever get a clue and want to tap the 1/25th scale U.S. market again, I hope they fix these basic goof ups. Such a beautiful build of a timeless car in a gorgeous color spoiled by a too short windscreen. Ugh!
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The Coca Cola version is molded in red. Awesome! I thought they may have tampo printed the Coca Cola graphics onto the body for that version. I'm glad that's not the case. I know some might argue about the front windshield profile being a little too flat and the tunnel back rear window being a little small like the old glue MPC kit, but I still like it better. Just for the fact it's a lot easier to build to make it look right. Of course, we have the excellent Revell '68-'69 Charger which is a great kit with full detail. However, I think the rear window shape is not 100% accurate on that one either. I think the only way to get an accurate rear window is spending the big bucks for an original promo/annual. Still, you can have a whole fleet of '69 Charger snap kits painted in all different colors for the price it would cost you for one single '69 Charger promo or annual kit. That's not a bad option in my book!
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Don't forget the new tool '69 Charger snap kit from Round 2. This was first issued as a DoH snap kit molded in orange. It's much better than the old MPC kit IMO. Also, I like the fact it's a snap kit which is like a promo. It gives me the opportunity to have a promo style Charger in my collection without having to sell a kidney for an original promo or unbuilt annual kit. Unlike the MPC, it looks great when assembled and has a lot of shelf appeal when displayed. The "City Slicker" is the latest version and it's molded in blue. I haven't bought one yet so I don't know if the plastic can be polished to a high shine. Regardless, it's another great addition to the line. If you can find some stock wheels/tires and polish up the plastic, it would make a great psuedo promo.
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How could 1/25th scale be an "aberration" when that scale existed prior to the 1950's here in the U..S.? Sure, if you want a bunch of quirky weird looking European home spec models or Russian Trabants, then I guess 1/24th scale is for you. However, here in the U.S. and you like the classic Chevies, Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Buicks, Cadillacs, Fords, Chryslers, American Motors, etc, 1/25th is the only game in town. The Hasagawa XJS may have more engine detail than the old Revell 1/25th scale Jaguar XJS snap kit. However, that side window profile and roof look a little wonky compared to the real car. Lots of detail for sure, but the body proportion seems off. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll take the much better proportioned 1/25th scale Revell XJS snapkit. I'd have rather a deads nuts accurate body design with some detail than a super detailed kit that has slightly off body proportions. I'm not saying the Revell 1/25th scale kit is deads nuts accurate on all accounts, but it sure looks a lot better in the upper roof drip rail side window profile section than the Hasegawa XJS kit.
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Revell 1971 Boss 351 Mustang
the other Mike S. replied to Justin Porter's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
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They're getting back into that 1/24 scale thing like they were doing through the '70's/'80's. Ugh! What happened to the U.S. market and 1/25th scale? I know most here would probably say "meh", but then again you have long threads on here about those weird ugly curbside cars from Nunu models. I'd like to see Revell reissue the 1/25th Jaguar XJS snap-kit again. It's 1/25th scale, easy to build (so great for younger modelers) and of a body style generation you don't see that often in scale. The XKE is a timeless classic no doubt. However, they've been done before especially in 1/24th scale. The XJS is very well done for a snap kit IMHO. The best part is, they already have it in their tooling archive. They could reissue it for very little expense if the tooling is still viable.
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Since Round 2 is knee deep into fixing/restoring their old tooling and such, it'd be great of they could fix those hacked out front wheel wells on that Charger. Yeah, they'd lose the Petty configuration, but most nascar/oval track modelers can probably "radius" their own wheel wells when needed when building these cars. Tool up a stock-ish chassis for it and I think you could get new buyers/builders into the mix. I know I would buy one if you could build a stock version out of it.
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Revell 1971 Boss 351 Mustang
the other Mike S. replied to Justin Porter's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
I think they should've at least tooled up a more correct front bumper for it though. Yeah, they did the dog dish hubcaps and horizontal turn signal grill insert which is great. However, the '71-'72 style front bumper would have been icing on the cake. As it stands right now, you really can't make a Bond car with it because it only comes with that huge '73 style front bumper. -
Great pics. Man, not having the solid roof structure really fubars the upper drip rail line profile on the side windows. Hopefully, that's just an artifact from the weak plastic in that area and not something wrong with the tooling itself. The front grill header doesn't look too bad and could be easily tweaked back to the stock configuration. If they can find the longer stock hood, front bumper and wheels, I think this would be an easy restoration back to stock reissue. They went through the same (if not more effort) for the Supernatural 4dr version of the '67 Impala based on the 2dr fastback. I think Round 2 should restore this one if they can find the tooling.
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I'm not sure. At the time the Kotter version came out, my scratchbuilding skills to replace the missing roof top were pretty lacking as they say. lol! I could probably do it now, but I prefer using the same type of plastic the kit is made from to make it happen. I never had good results using Evergreen sheet to make complicated replacement roof tops on model cars. Then, you still have the hood/front grill header to deal with. For me, I rather save all the effort to do that and just save up for a nice original promo. They're not unobtanium yet. However, if Round 2 restores the '72 Grand Prix tooling back to stock and they reissue it, I'd buy a case of them.
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The time and money it would cost Round 2 to restore the roof top back into the Superfly version, which is the way I think most people would want it, you'd be better off going all the way and restoring the hood and front header panel back to stock as well. For me, I wouldn't even consider the Kotter version. I didn't like it then and I still don't like it now. However, I would consider the Superfly version just for the nostalgia factor. However, if you really wanted to get my heart racing, I'd LOVE to see a stock version made again. Even if they restored it back to factory stock, a resin company could make the parts to make a Superfly out of it. Going from Superfly (or even worse the Kotter version) back to stock would be much harder. Restore it back to stock and let the builder decided if they wanta Superfly or *GASP* Kotter version from it. There is enough talent from "older" builders these days to make that happen .
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Round 2 is getting a little lazy. Okay, they did new wheels and a new front grill insert for the horizontal turn signals. Would it have bankrupted them to make a new '71-'72 style front bumper as well? Sheesh!
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They need to come out with a sci-fi show where the lead characters are driving around in a '72 Grand Prix. If that was the case, you could bet your bottom dollar this kit would be restored back to stock configuration and reissued again.
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I don't think it's because no one wants to take a chance on a new Corvette kit. The new Corvette would obviously sell because the real car is smoking hot right now and anyone who is a car enthusiast/collects and builds model cars/ even the real 1:1 scale Corvette owner/ would probably want one. The reason we didn't have a 2020 Corvette model kit is because GM had not requested a promo contract. So, I'm guessing for Round 2 or even Revell to develop one from scratch, they would have to spend a lot more time and money than if they had GM's blessing for a promo contract from which a kit could be based upon. When it came to developing new tools, the Corvette was always a no brainer. The fact that even Tamiya nor anyone else has not stepped up to the plate in offering a new Corvette kit has me truly baffled. If you want the new Corvette in scale, it's diecast only. Pot metal must be a lot cheaper to produce than plastic, I guess.
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What Camaro Z/28 was this? There were three engines available for '83. The standard LG4 5.0L, the upgrade option LU5 CFI and (in mid-year '83), the L69 5sp. The L69 5sp was good for 0-60 in 7.2 secs. That's 1.6 seconds quicker to 60 than the Rabbit 4 banger.