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I have a stash of these kits (owning a real convertible and a hardtop). I like them. Sure, they aren't 100% accurate, but I don't care. I have swapped engines and chassis to help some of this, but overall these kits are great. My real cars are both Harvest Gold, the 'vert with a Black top/interior (original 318Poly/727...now 440+6/Hemi 727) and the Hardtop with the White/Gold interior (originally a 361/727...now a 440/727).

Well Allecb, as I do not know your age nor experience level I cannot know your mind. BUT, I will say that your frustration level sounds like a younger builder (I mean that with no disrespect, and I will show you what I mean). As a younger builder, I too would get bent when things didn't go my way. Why is this piece of plastic kicking my butt? Why can't I master it? It is an inanimate object, how can it cause me so much trouble? My temper would get the best of me. As I got older, met experienced builders and learned from them, things got better (but NEVER easy). I also learned to control my temper better. I would test-fit, file, test-fit, file, test-fit again. Then paint and glue (and find that what fit before now didn't due to paint thickness/chemical reactions between paint/plastic). I learned to walk away from something that was bothering me until I could come back to it with a level head. I would sometimes put it back in the box until my skillset improved enough to get past the hurtle that kit threw at me. I still build, years later. But the early failures and learning to cope with them have made me a better builder (who now fails grandly instead of small). I still have troubles with kits, but I eventually overcome them. You will too.

Hey Tony, to answer your PM here; I don't think that posting the build pics of my Capri here would do much good! If I posted every pic of my FOX builds going on here, I would have to pay Gregg for the added bandwidth AND I would have to open the build to an unlimited end date as I have 40 FOX builds going and I work slow!

1968-71 Dodge Pick-up (any bed length/tonnage rating).... 1979-93 ACCURATE (for its year) Mustang Coupe.... 1979-86 ACCURATE (for its year) Mercury Capri.... 1979-86 (prefer 85-86GT as none have ever been kitted) ACCURATE Mustang GT or LX.... ....in 1/25th scale please!

Oops, in my PM to you I assumed it was the Revell Turbo Capri (responded to your PM before looking here). Wow, that thing is a little rough isn't it? However, to see a Capri makes my heart happy, as they are a forgotton FOX!

Where is Wheelman when you need him! (although, I must say you have a nice collection there Mr.Cole!)

Refer to one of my earlier posts in the FOX Chassis CBP for my take on my cats vs my models!

Looks good Jordan! Progress is coming along nicely on yours Tony; looks like Backyard Billy has been busy! Jeff; there is no limit to the FOX Love one can show here. Build as many as you want, I will be watching and loving it!

Nice concept. I too have one of these kits (still using the turbo4 though. We won't get into everything non-Capri about this kit here; but as to the decals. They are scaled way too big in the original kit. They are almost twice the real aplique/decal size. Placement is correct by the instructions, but the size is just WTF? I wanted to find a way to scale them correctly and market them, but two things stopped me: 1) I am technologically illiterate 2) How many of these kits (with the Capri nose and hood) still exist and how many people really know what the CapriRS turbo was? I will keep an eye on this build, FOX lover as I am and all.

Unfortunately, the superdetailing is what is taking the time. Besides the 1991GT conversion I have going here, I have a 1987 Thunderbird TurboCoupe that is being built as a full-detail Pro-Tourer with the 2.3T Ford 4cylinder getting a completely scratchbuilt Volvo DOHC conversion (like my real 1984 Mustang GT Turbo is getting). I started a build thread on that one too, but have yet to update it as I wanted to get that 32 done first. Thanks for the compliment, but I do not think I am that good. On the 1991, being it started life as a 1993 Cobra, I have had to change some of the detail. I am building this as a scale interpretation of my real 1991GT, and as that car evolves, so does this build. I have the Cervinis 1993 Cobra rear bumper cover on my real car, so the kits bumper (even though it is a Cobra) cover got modified to properly resemble the real piece. I am working on the Watts Link/3Link rear suspension set-up for it now, taking measurements from my real car. Lots of work into it. The 1983 is a mimic of my real 1983 GLX convertible. I had to cut the V8 back into a V6 and make the headers for it. Pics coming soon.

Hmm.....sounds like sniper school. Slowly exhale as you are gently squeezing the trigger. Gives better control of your application of pressure and doesn't transmit your body movements into the gun! I use this method when I do the delicate stuff. Used to hold my breath, bad move there as it transmits more movement to your extremeties.

No offense taken here. I will get back to work on these shortly; as soon as the 32 Ford 5 window I am working on for Januarys club meeting is done (I have over 1,100 kits with 400+ started. The club has never seen a finished kit from me and I want to shock them....and myself....by finishing this one up). I have 2 builds going for this CBP, my 1983 GLX convertible and my 1991GT Hatchback. The hatch is the long project.

I will agree wholeheartedly with the Fuel-injected route. But since he asked if his idea would work with carbs, I gave him an example of how it would/how to build it. Now, there is a company out there that takes vintage carbs and converts them to EFI set-ups. this would be perfect in this application, as he would have the look of carbs with the function of EFI. Some routing of the fuel lines/throttle cables would give the fact away, but it would look killer AND work. Or he could say screw it, go full Individual Throttle Body per cylinder with two plenum rails made to look like old air cleaners for the Webers and REALLY have something cool and functional.

That was worth the scrolling down! VERY NICE builds you have there; not a bad one in the bunch.

I see a 4.6L DOHC Ford Mustang Cobra mill hiding among the grime, don't I?

You don't need 8 hats; you would run 2 plenums, one for each bank of carbs. You wouldn't have a plumbers nightmare if you did it this way. I have made a common plenum for my Individual Throttle Body set-up on a Volvo head converted 2.3L Ford. With the plenum securely fastened to the carbs, you only need one per bank, with the inlet from the intercooler centrally located along said plenum to balance incoming pressure across the 4 carb barrels fed by the plenum body.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who went eons between updates! Did you already paint this kit? If not, it lends itself well to Dark Reds or Blues.

Tony, your T-Top conversion looks great! And I can relate to your house. Mine may not be as old, but it is tiny (640sqft) so I have to innovate when it comes to doing an indoor spray booth. Greg, the dash came out looking fantastic. If the rest of your build turns out this nice, I might not want to show my junk in here! Thanks for the support and FOX love guys.

With due respect wisdonm, you CAN run a carb/blow-through set up without it being in a pressure box and have it still function properly. You will have what is called a 'hat' that seals down tightly to the inlet of the carb (a pressure bonnet/plenum if you will) in place of the air cleaner. Run solid floats and a rising-rate adjustable fuel pressure regulator on the liquid side to keep things in line and it will run smoothly, reliably, and make GOOD power. One thing to think about is intercooling/blow-off valving. Run a single discharge pipe from the intercooler and place your blow-off valve there. After you have placed your BOV, tee the piping off to their respective bank of cylinders (being this is a model, making note of running a slightly lighter spring in the valve to aid blow-off is useless as you really can't model that!).

You are getting more work done than I am Tony! I too shoot outside, I am too lazy to build up a spray booth for inside the house....although I am SERIOUSLY considering it. As to the engine block color, both my 1986 and my 1991 blocks were Gray, and the block in my 1983 and 84 were Black.

To stay on topic Ed, and to answer your question from my particular circumstance; after talking with Ed Sexton at Toledo NNL this year and finding out that they ARE working on (and moving forward with research for) a FOX Mustang Coupe model (all-new tool in 1/25th), I have been putting a little of each paycheck away as a 'buy this kit' fund. Working with Revell on this kit (as little input as Ed asks me for/I put in) and owning 4 real FOX Mustangs, this kit will be near and dear to my heart (and therefore, my wallet). I WILL have the money saved for a case of them, and have asked ED if I can purchase the FIRST case and have it sent directly to me when it ships. He laughed a little, until he realized I was/am dead serious. Planning ahead and saving for it will make it feasable for me to purchase the case. Oh, and I have a case of the 1992 Mustang GT converts, as well as 40 other Foxes from Revell/Monogram and AMT/MPC.

That's looking pretty good for a 'Backyard Billy' build! I like it. Eric, you tease with such a nice build-up of that kit.

I check it for kits I am looking for. As I am not selling (yet, but I will be selling some withing the next year or so), but when I do I will post them there first.

Those wheels look great Tony, and will really show the car well. GTMust (Tony); sounds like a plan to me. I didn't mean to make your idea sound bad or anything by posting the differences, I just wanted anyone who might be contemplating the same idea to know them. That, and to be honest, I didn't know your level of familiarity with these cars or the kits....I meant no harm or ill intention by posting what I did. Like I said, I have a warm spot in my heart for the 4eye cars and love them as if they were my children (since I have no kids, I substitute with cars and bikes). I have no doubt it will come out looking good (and I too use the models as styling excersices for my real cars).

Is that ummmmm an 'How am I going to do that in scale?' ummmm or a 'What do you mean?' ummmm? If it is a 'How' question: the 1993 Cobra as well as the later GT convertibles have the quad shock assemblies in the kit. If it is a 'What' question: all Late-84 through 93 V8 Mustangs (and late84-86 Capris, late84-88 Thunderbird V8/Turbo4, Late84-88 Cougar V8/Turbo4) got the revised handling package (originally stated for the 1983 release) that had a set of shocks mounted almost horizontally trailing the rear axle back to the frame. Gone were the 'Slapper Bar' style anti-windup units and bumper plates mounted to the lower control arms. This addition of shocks was meant to stop the wind-up and subsequent 'chatter' of the rear-end/tires by addint the horizontal dampening force to the verticle force. If you have got the front almost converted to the 85-86 style bumper; you can replicate the side moldings by filling in the existing depression and re-scribing the two thin indents in it. The only killer will be the GT script in the molding behind the door/ahead of the rear wheel well opening. Only GTs had the script, and only GTs had the foglight bumper too. It can be done, but a little work and a lot of research needs to be done. The cowl/cowl vent is wider on the 83-86 cars than it is on the 79-82 cars, and will need to be 'swapped' to make it correct. The hood is COMPLETELY different between 79-82 and 83-86. The 79-82 has the recessed areas next to the 'raised' straight-back center section, not to mention the 'flat-squared' front lip of the hood. The 83-86 hoods are flat with the center raise being taper-angled to match the grill opening up front and the wider cowl area at the rear, and the hood lip is more of a bent-over beak looking piece. The rear spoiler on the Cafe car is the 1979-early84 3 piece unit, and your 85 will have the one-piece 'ducktail' type unit (without the brake light......1986 got the CHMSL). The 86 unit and the 87-93LX units are VERY similar in looks and fitment. You can make the Late-84-85 unit by rounding the corners of the earlier piece and filling the center area with styrene at a slight depressed fit/putty to shape. You will have to fill in the split lines as well, as the later spoiler was a one piece unit. Hope I haven't bored you or scared you off. I look forward to seeing this one turn out. I love FOXes of any year, but will admit to having a soft spot for the 4eye cars.