Thanks Donn & Alexandre, but Pro Tech etc are not a viable option, gets real expensive real fast for the amount I'm after, see http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72174 cost me a small fortune bringing a heap of Pro Tech's braided line down under. Maybe I should just do box stock or quit the hobby altogether. No, that just ain't gonna work. & Donn love the DVD's, picked up so many useful tips.
Casey, I,ve had them for about 15+ yrs, they were complete. I tried Google to with no success.