DaveM Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 I like the vintage style Chevy better than the obvious "Crate Motor" 5.0 Ford in the '32s. At least this is a genuine hot rod motor, even if is has been overdone. With the '32s you either had to build it with a closed hood, or put some decent looking parts on the motor. (Or just swap the thing out,) While it may not be the holy grail motor we all wanted, there is always a place for a good, well done, vintage mouse in a hot rod or race car. I can see some of these being used in gassers. (Not every gasser was an "A" class car with a Hemi.) I have been looking at doing a chopped "T" from the AMT kit as a drag rod (Kind of inspired by some Gunther Bros. pics, but not a replica of their car.) The more I look at the pics, the more I think the blown Chevy would be a slick choice for that build. I am sure that the tri carb intake will end up on another car someday. (Maybe on an AMT 327 from a '66 Nova kit that I am stuffing into a Deuce.) I would be more excited to see the firewall and roof fixed up than to see the motor changed at this point. Hopefully more versions of the kit will give us more motors! Someday, I want to see a nice "W" head 348 or 409 with 3 carbs, and a similar period perfect Olds Rocket motor. Either way, I am excited for this kit if they work the bugs out.
Dave Darby Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) The small block Chevy motor doesn't bother me a bit, even though I'm actually a Ford man. It's easy to swap out an engine if you don't like it. It's inaccuracies in the body that make for the hard work. My vote is leave the engine as is, but for gad sake, let's put in a firewall that we don't have make excuses for. And 32 Ford roof insert? Since when is wrong OK? Anyway, as you can see below, Revell was able to get it right in the past, they can do it right this time too. Edited May 9, 2015 by Dave Darby
Luc Janssens Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 While I understand some of the concerns made public here, especially those from guys who eat and breathe Hot rods, I'm getting more and more exited with every (re)view of the test shots and builds made from it. In the past I Hot rods never did anything for me, but by meeting people who have one and watching TV shows like Gas Monlee's, I got this itch, so can't wait, till the first release hits our shores, to play with the parts, just like any 46 year old kid would do
Danno Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 Firewall/cowl issue: At worst, it's not horrid. At best, it sounds like another job for the MasterCaster!
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Firewall/cowl issue: At worst, it's not horrid. At best, it sounds like another job for the MasterCaster! But like the photo in post #78 so eloquently illustrates, if Revell could get it dead-balls-on 45+ years back, what's the reason (excuse) for missing it by a mile today? Speakin' of which, I have a dated 1969 release of the Revell '31 "Sedan Delivery". If the boys workin' now can't get it right, why not just copy existing revell parts from '69 ?
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And 32 Ford roof insert? Since when is wrong OK? Since we have international outsourcing, related communication problems, budget and timeline constraints, and multiple levels of poorly-focused management to make excuses with, that's when.
Longbox55 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 There's never been a 4-71 blower, 4-71 Detroit Diesel, the source of said blower.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 4-71 Detroit Diesel, the source of said blower. Absolutely correct, but I have a feeling he may have meant "there's never been a 4-71 blower kitted " (though I seem to have several bowers that look just like 4-71s in my many-many years worth of mystery stash). I think Barney Navarro is credited as the first successful user of the WWII surplus GMC 2-stroke diesel engine blowers in hot-rod and race-car applications
Greg Myers Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Look what Big Daddy's lookin' at . . . Edited May 10, 2015 by Greg Myers
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Sho bees lookin' like a 4-71 to me... Excuse me, but I really want that SBC. Try these. Very VERY good engine kits, still available cheep if you look...and the 283 is pretty much indistinguishable from any other "smallblock" Chebby in 1/25 scale (except that the Parts Pak kit has a Potvin-style front-drive blower setup) Edited May 10, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy
Brett Barrow Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Oh yeah. Beatnik Bandit, on an Olds. How did I forget that one?
Greg Myers Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Excuse me, but I really want that SBC. This argument is interesting. Even when one compares the 1:1 to the scale models we are discussing. The whole point originally was building a Hot Rod, a vehicle the exceeded the original in power and performance. let's just skip to the chase, power, bigger, more motor. What was out there? first it was "hop ups" puttin' stuff on the bangers ( four cylinder engines) to make them go faster, Gowjobs Then some one discovered they could do a little swapin' around and come up with something better, the "engine Swap". A different engine. A bigger engine. A more powerful engine. As time went by they saw some engines were better suited to their needs, fit for example, availability, economy, don't wanna pay too much. Bottom line, the Chevy small Block fit this criteria to a tee. After trying many engines as they came available, i.e. Olds, Pontiac, Cads, Buicks, yes even Studebakers. So lookin' back you'll see 'em all. But Mostly the ubiquitous Small Block Chevys. So you don't like that Small Block Chevy ? Swap it out. Whater ya waitin' for ? Edited May 10, 2015 by Greg Myers
Greg Myers Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) To me, Nothing says "Hot Rod" more than three deuces on top of a small block Chevy powered Model A Ford Coupe. That's just me. Edited May 10, 2015 by Greg Myers
Johnny99 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 To me, Nothing says "Hot Rod" more than three deuces on top of a small block Chevy powered Model A Ford Coupe. That's just me. ...and me.
Jon Cole Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I took your advice Luc and sent the following email tonight. To whom it may concern, I've recently seen the released test shots of your upcoming Model A 5 window coupe. As happy as I was to see it, I was very unhappy to see the offered engine. In real 1:1 hot rodding, the chevy small block is common because of their reliability and they can be had cheaply. But man, they are boring. Dull as dishwater. At car shows people will say, "Yawn, another small block chevy". As a modeler I'm not interested in dull. I want the hot-rodding-holy-grail engines. The nailhead in your upcoming '29 roadster is a home run with me and the scale auto community. We're very happy with it. So here's what we'd like to see 270 Dodge hemi with the Red Ram or Super Red Ram valve covers A 325 Dodge hemi with the polyspherical heads A good Chevy 348/409 with finned valve covers and air cleaners. A tripowered Olds Rocket (this one should have been a no-brainer for you guys) A 312 Ford y-block a Daimler 2.5 litre hemi the Ardun flathead from your 50 Ford pickup (another no-brainer) or just the nailhead again, with some different intake options would be better than the small block. Cmon guys. You know by now,your target demographic is us oldsters. We're not interested in dull, commonly seen stuff. We want what we dreamed about as kids. I'm really looking forward to the '29 roadster (I'll buy several) because that's what I've always wanted, although a Duval windshield would have been nice. You guys are cranking out some amazing kits. Really. The '70 Cuda and '50 Olds are fantastic stuff. The Deuces were top notch. Keep it up. Rob Mattis Tampa, FL. What Rob said.
Greg Myers Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Naw. We can do it our own selves, we're hot rodders, just give us the ol Chevy 283.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 The Chebby smallblock is still the most bang for the buck going in the 1:1 world, and will probably be for some time to come. Tired as I am of seeing them in everything, if I were going to build a V8 rod, I'd go little Chebby just to get something fast, on the road quickly. ...Well, I would have if I hadn't just happened to come upon a '49 Olds 303, complete with Hydramatic gearbox, for $250.
mademan Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 The Chebby smallblock is still the most bang for the buck going in the 1:1 world, and will probably be for some time to come. Tired as I am of seeing them in everything, if I were going to build a V8 rod, I'd go little Chebby just to get something fast, on the road quickly. ...Well, I would have if I hadn't just happened to come upon a '49 Olds 303, complete with Hydramatic gearbox, for $250. I just scooped up a Buick Straight 8 for when I get around to my rod. 25-7 Tall T, something different.
DaveM Posted May 11, 2015 Posted May 11, 2015 Actually, I have a couple Oldsmobile 455s here. Whatever I build next is going to need stronger front springs... (But it will be different!)
Craig Irwin Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 The engine is an easy swap if you don't like it, what rear end and suspension does it have? Traditional or late model high tec like the roadster. I suure would like a buggy spring and a quick change this time.
JTalmage Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 I'd be willing to bet that the suspension and chassis/frame of this kit is shared w/ the 29. And designed as such to take different engines.
Craig Irwin Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I'd be willing to bet that the suspension and chassis/frame of this kit is shared w/ the 29. And designed as such to take different engines. That's what I'm afraid of.
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