Want to see EXCESSIVE?

[Tom Geiger]

William-  When you bid on eBay, say a $300 maximum bid, when the current bid is $100, that's a "Proxy Bid".  What that means is that you are trusting them to "Bid by Proxy" for you in the predefined bid increments over the other bidders. That means you are authorizing them to bid for you. Each time that newbie put in another $10 bid, the Proxy would up the bid for the proxy bidder one increment over that.  Each time newbie bid, he'd get a response from eBay that the other guy was still high bidder at $1 more than his bid. (or whatever amount was the increment at that dollar level).

and that scenario you depict forgets one thing: if the price stayed around 100$, instead of jumping to 400 as noted here, others would have been bidding and raising the ante.

True, other bidders may have chimed in, but they probably would have been sane bids and the end result would not have been $440. And if the auction was still within a normal price range there could have been several snipe bids in the last seconds of the auction.  eBay even advises bidders that it's best to bid close to the end of auction.

sniping software ought to be banned. it is one of the features that has near ruined ebay

It is what it is. People snipe bid within the last seconds of the auction.  I'm not going to be sitting there at 3am waiting to manually input a bid.  Automation works for me and a good portion of the eBay savvy  patrons. Simply put, you either learn to snipe or you don't win auctions. Not using sniper software is like going fishing with your hands!  

 

[aurfalien]

Actually the reason I won't use sniper warez is because it takes the fun out of it.

I like sitting there, during the final seconds anticipating wether some one snipe or in person wants this more then I.  I only loose on those occasions were I simply wasn't willing to really play ball.

I bid during the final 3-5 seconds of the auction.  Sometimes I'll do it during the last minute just to see whose out there and to say hello.

 

Edited August 20, 2015 by aurfalien

[bbowser]

 

 

 

It is what it is. People snipe bid within the last seconds of the auction.  I'm not going to be sitting there at 3am waiting to manually input a bid.  Automation works for me and a good portion of the eBay savvy  patrons. Simply put, you either learn to snipe or you don't win auctions. Not using sniper software is like going fishing with your hands!  

 

What is a recommended sniper software?  I don't use one now but am considering it.  A lot of auctions end late on the west coast past my bedtime 

[Tom Geiger]

What is a recommended sniper software?  I don't use one now but am considering it.  A lot of auctions end late on the west coast past my bedtime 

www.esnipe.com -   I believe they have a free trial.  The cost of the service is minimal.  I buy $10 of their 'bid points' about once a year.  You only pay on the auctions you win. I've been using the service for a bunch of years and am pretty satisfied.

One of the beauties of using a snipe service is that you can change or cancel your bids anytime before the auction end, because you haven't bid on eBay.  Unlike when you bid on eBay, and then find the same thing cheaper and are stuck honoring your bid.

And of course the illustration I gave earlier in this thread, sniping can save you hundreds because you haven't revealed your cards, so nobody is wise enough to bid against you. 

[jbwelda]

tom, yes on further reflection I have to agree with you now on the "proxy bid" thing. seems to me, in the past, proxy bid was a reserved word in ebay land, and meant a specific thing. but I went there the other day and went through their help files and could not find mention of the term so I guess it lapsed from the lexicon. but I see what you mean about the concept and agree it mirrors the real auction world in that it in essence allows you to make bids while not actually being in attendance. thanks for the info

jb

 

[bobthehobbyguy]

Definitely a crazy stupid price. WFor that price I would expect a pristine box and all the parts bagged. Really don't see it that collectible in the conditiohl. Gotta agree that $120 would be a reasonable price.

 The problem I see is this sets the bar for even crazier prices. Ie a pristine would be say a thousand. Maybe the rat rod comment sold it. Right up there with rare and vintage.

 

[Tom Geiger]

The problem I see is this sets the bar for even crazier prices. Ie a pristine would be say a thousand. 

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then again the stock market tanked so none of us have any money anymore!    

[jbwelda]

its time to buy!

jb

 

[dimaxion]

I did complain to Ebay today as I see the same issue . I did offer to document any activity I notice . Let's see what the response is . Thanx ..

[jbwelda]

you complained to ebay...about what? I am not sure the "issue" you mean...

and I don't really see an anomaly sort of auction result like this "raising the bar" on selling price...maybe buy it now asking prices, but once people see this kit doesn't really fetch these kind of prices except in some extreme bidding war, the prices will come back to reasonable.

jb

 

[dimaxion]

Did I miss the jest of what you wrote ? I see the same items sold for high dollars . Been contacted by the seller of successful auctions explaining I was the next higher bidder of these same items  . I was then "given the opportunity to buy the item at a Higher price than I bid or was willing to pay" . I decline and see the same item re-listed . This is the jest of what I am complaining about . I did ask if it were possible to know of the Item I am considering to bid on was listed , not sold , and relisted at a later time . . Thanx ..

[jbwelda]

>Did I miss the jest of what you wrote ?

no I wasn't jesting, I was serious.

oh you mean "gist", the gist of what I wrote. just a typo.

no probably you did not miss the gist of what I wrote since you seemed to answer it. though I am kind of unclear on your response...do you mean the seller of THIS AUCTION the thread is about contacted you to buy the item?

if you just mean in general though, yeah that's pretty bad form to contact an outbid bidder and offer to sell to them for more than they bid. whats even worse, and I have had it done to me, is to have them offer to sell it to you for your high bid, ignoring the fact that the only reason the bid got that high in the first place was because the person who "won" the item but somehow did not go through with the transaction (aka "shill") was the one who bid it up to my high bid. if the guy was disqualified then all his bids should disappear and the only bid to be met in that case is the next bidder if any.

>I see the same items sold for high dollars .

not sure what that has to do with it.

>I was then "given the opportunity to buy the item at a Higher price than I bid or was willing to pay" .

yes I would complain about that, and it will probably result in a nastygram to the person doing it.

>I decline and see the same item re-listed .

well that's legit, the item didn't sell so he is relisting it.

>This is the jest of what I am complaining about .

so  you were joking then?

nope not just a typo.

>I did ask if it were possible to know of the Item I am considering to bid on was listed , not sold , and relisted at a later time

I don't really think that matters, its perfectly legitimate to relist an item that did not sell the other times around

jb