1/24 Maserati Bora engine source?

[aurfalien]

Hi,

 

I am somewhat contemplating a future build and was wondering what V8 can I use in place that resembles a Bora V8?

The Maserati Bora V8 has these cool looking heads which seem characteristic of there engines.

Here are some pics and as usual, thanks in advance

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by aurfalien

[Ace-Garageguy]

The old Maser V8 is a roughly 5-liter 90-degree alloy block engine with iron cylinder liners and DOHC heads.

It's physically roughly the same size as something like a smallblock Ford or Chevy...but the heads are obviously much wider and have cam-boxes.

One way to approximate the look would be to use one of those bottom ends, but substitute a pair of DOHC heads from some fairly large (2.5 L or so) displacement 4-cylinder engine.

Or you could maybe cut two cylinders off the end of a big old Jag 6 head, and then file the top of it flat to get a similar installed angle on the cam covers. Make 2.

Or start with a couple of old Offy heads and modify to suit.

Another possible starting point would be the Chevy DOHC LT-5 V8 from the AMT '39 Wagon Rod kit. The problem is that the old Maser uses classic hemi combustion chambers with a large included angle between valves, which puts the cams quite far apart...and the cam covers. The LT-5 uses a more emissions-friendly combustion chamber, and the cams and cam covers end up much closer together, a very different look from the Maser engine.

Other than using a readily available V8 bottom end and making or modifying heads and valve covers, I can't think of a way to get a reasonably decent looking Bora engine in scale. The engine is the same basic unit that was in the old Quattroporte, Mexico, Ghibli and Kamsin too, but that's not much help.

The Revell 1/24 Bora has an opening rear deck, but I don't know if it has any kind of decent engine detail.

Far as I know, that's the only Bora kit in 1/24 that even had an opening rear clamshell.

Edited September 16, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[aurfalien]

Thank monsignor.

I found this being a Kurtis Kraft Offy version;

http://manuals.hobbico.com/rmx/85-4267.pdf

The second page labeled as page 1 has the point of interest for me.

I see what you are saying in terms of a big DOHC 4 banger.  Maybe like a head off an older Datsun/Toyota 4 cylinder engine?

[Crazy Ed]

I see what you are saying in terms of a big DOHC 4 banger.  Maybe like a head off an older Datsun/Toyota 4 cylinder engine?

    A pair of Heads off of the Tamiya Lotus Europa with a bit of File work might work. Another option might be the DOHC Heads fron the IMC Ford GT. Sand the Tops square then use bar stock and 1/2 Round to build up the Cam Covers. The Injector porst will become the Spark Plug holes.

[landman]

I wonder if Duesenberg cam covers would work for this?

[aurfalien]

Thanks wizards, I am researching now.

CrazyEd, the Lotus looks like it would work pretty darn well, thanks man!

 

[aurfalien]

Well, it appears that any of the proposed solutions will be some what expensive.

Oh well, kinda surprised no one has done this engine as it looks hot!

[Ace-Garageguy]

Oh well, kinda surprised no one has done this engine as it looks hot!

It looks good in a hot-rod too.  

[aurfalien]

It looks good in a hot-rod too.  

Wow, what a beauty!

 

[aurfalien]

Well, it appears the old Revell kit actually has an engine so I am in biznezz!  Now I just have to find a reasonably priced one.

I did find this which looks like a smashing kit, beautiful but out of my price range;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-24-Maserati-Boomerang-SMP24-/272378909740?hash=item3f6b0c542c:g:suYAAOSwyvBV9Y4G

The eBay post includes pictures of the instruction sheet which look fabulous.

Done by a company; Super Modeling Project 24.  By the looks of this kit, they do fantastic work!

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Well, it appears the old Revell kit actually has an engine so I am in biznezz!  Now I just have to find a reasonably priced one.

 

I'll be very interested to see what the Revell guts look like. The Bora also uses the ZF gearbox that came in the deTomaso Pantera and some iterations of the Ford GT40...and to the best of my current recollection, there is no source for a reasonably accurate-looking one.  

[aurfalien]

I'll be very interested to see what the Revell guts look like. The Bora also uses the ZF gearbox that came in the deTomaso Pantera and some iterations of the Ford GT40...and to the best of my current recollection, there is no source for a reasonably accurate-looking one.  

Its hard to tell but can you approximate if this gear box is done well?

If I get the Revell kit, I'll def snap some pics and update this thread for sure.

Edited September 17, 2016 by aurfalien

[Rob Hall]

The Revell kit definitely had an engine, I remember building it over 35 years ago.  NIce kit, built it along w/ the Ferrari 308 GTB.  I think it's in my childhood bedroom closet in Ohio.  

Edited September 17, 2016 by Rob Hall

[Can-Con]

I'll be very interested to see what the Revell guts look like. The Bora also uses the ZF gearbox that came in the deTomaso Pantera and some iterations of the Ford GT40...and to the best of my current recollection, there is no source for a reasonably accurate-looking one.  

I have a built one I've had since new. I'll see if I can find it later and take some pics. 

IIRC, the engine was kinda basic, short on detail like the cam cover script but probably could be detailed out to look good.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Its hard to tell but can you approximate if this gear box is done well?

The gearbox looks good in the illustration. Of course, Palmer illustrations looked good too. 

[Can-Con]

Here's the pics of the Revell engine. Not the greatest. I don't remember any belts or accessories at the front of the engine either.

 

 

 

 

 

[aurfalien]

Cool, thanks for that.

I think its a great base to do add some fromage.