SpeedShift Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I got a resin '27 T body and decided to do a classic 'fifties hot rod. Dropped front axle from a Revel Model A - Z frame and some steelie wheels. Like to have a flathead with old style speed equipment. Edited March 18, 2017 by SpeedShift
SpeedShift Posted March 18, 2017 Author Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I like it so far. Thanks! While I like 'highboys and coupes in years 32 to 34, the 27 has a nice smooth look, and if I can get the right stance on those big and littles, it could look pretty nice. Edited March 18, 2017 by SpeedShift
Bernard Kron Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 These resin 27T's make terrific hot rods once you get past the "long pole in the tent", which is the complete lack of any interiors for them. So, if your not going to do a competition car or rat rod with a totally gutted interior the first order of business is to fabricate a proper upholstered setup, which is just what you've done. The other key missing part is the windshield, but the good news there is that the windshield from the various versions of the AMT 27T Phaeton is a perfect fit, and looks great chopped. I've done both highboy (on Deuce rails) and lo-boy versions of these bodies and the relative lack of parts, aftermarket or otherwise, is the biggest challenge. But the result can be very satisfying.So far so good!. Looking forward to seeing the results once you get the chassis z'd and the roadster down low.
DrKerry Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Got a great start going there!!! Keep it going!!!!
Dennis Lacy Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 You're off to a great start with a good combination of parts. Those Flintstone bodies are a bit rough around the edges but with some cleanup they come out pretty decent.
SpeedShift Posted March 18, 2017 Author Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) These resin 27T's make terrific hot rods once you get past the "long pole in the tent", which is the complete lack of any interiors for them. So, if your not going to do a competition car or rat rod with a totally gutted interior the first order of business is to fabricate a proper upholstered setup, which is just what you've done. The other key missing part is the windshield, but the good news there is that the windshield from the various versions of the AMT 27T Phaeton is a perfect fit, and looks great chopped. I've done both highboy (on Deuce rails) and lo-boy versions of these bodies and the relative lack of parts, aftermarket or otherwise, is the biggest challenge. But the result can be very satisfying.So far so good!. Looking forward to seeing the results once you get the chassis z'd and the roadster down low.Thanks guys - Yes...I hadn't thought much about the interior when I started this, they tend to be less interesting than the engine and other components like wheels, but getting the frame and suspension done kinda requires the floorboards and the interior get worked out.Got the tuck 'n roll bench seat started, the parts hunt is on for the windshield and dash.... Edited March 19, 2017 by SpeedShift
SpeedShift Posted March 19, 2017 Author Posted March 19, 2017 Worked the interior a bit and have a bench seat fitted out sanded. Digging into my collection of aftermarket parts - got a PE banjo steering wheel...looking for period gauges for the dash.
SpeedShift Posted March 19, 2017 Author Posted March 19, 2017 Rear leaf spring is cut from an old AMT 29 Ford roadster kit....detailed the floor board a bit under the frame. Looking over some Parts by Parks baby moon hubs.
SpeedShift Posted March 19, 2017 Author Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Got the firewall oriented to the engine placement - w/ engine mounts on the frame set up to fit with the front water pump assembly on the flathead ford. Model Car Garage - Edelbrock center port finned flathead valve covers and will be using an assortment of Replicas and Miniatures fine Ford Flathead aftermarket parts for detailing, and a Model Car Garage chopped '32 Ford grille with PE insert for the front end............ Now to figure out the steering column and what kind of exhaust headers to use and how I should route them. Maybe street legal mufflers but with header plugs? Edited March 19, 2017 by SpeedShift
SpeedShift Posted March 19, 2017 Author Posted March 19, 2017 Nice goodies!This should be good.....Thanks - Finally putting them to use.
SpeedShift Posted March 19, 2017 Author Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) The Model A frame has the 29 roadster spring housing grafted on and has been Z'd in the rear for correct stance - with a drooped front axle, lowers the body on the frame/wheels. Edited March 19, 2017 by SpeedShift
Bernard Kron Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) ... the parts hunt is on for the windshield and dash.... The better interior of the two '27's I did was the highboy. Here's a picture showing the AMT '37 Chevy custom dash I used. The steering wheel is from that kit as well. The seat and side panels are heavily modified Revell '32 Ford roadster pieces. You can also see the cut down AMT '27T Phaeton windshield. Edited March 22, 2017 by Bernard Kron
SpeedShift Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) The better interior of the two '27's I did was the highboy. Here's a picture showing the AMT '37 Chevy custom dash I used. The steering wheel is from that kit as well. The seat and side panels are heavily modified Revell '32 Ford roadster pieces. You can also see the cut down AMT '27T Phaeton windshield. Thanks Bernard....I think have a line on the Phaeton windshield. I like both of your 27s...what body did you use? I'm leaning towards a very dark metallic violet blue with complementary yellow/orange wheels with chrome baby moons and trim rings. Interior...maybe black or black with white. (BTW: This might be TRaKable.....so, check ya later...alligator.) Edited March 23, 2017 by SpeedShift
Bernard Kron Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) ...I like both of your 27s...what body did you use?I'm leaning towards a very dark metallic violet blue with complementary yellow/orange wheels with chrome baby moons and trim rings.Interior...maybe black or black with white.(BTW: This might be TRaKable.....so, check ya later...alligator.)The first 27T I built used a Jimmy Flintstone body. Rough, thick but usable - the usual Flintstone drill. The second time around I used a body from Altered States - IMHO the best one out there: thin, straight, smooth, almost styrene-like. Highly recommended, and available in an ever expanding array of variations (with and without louvered deck, dry lakes roadster with tonneau cover, competition roadster to drop over a digger frame, etc., etc.). Now if I could just convince him to offer an interior and windshield...The color combo sounds cool. And yes, I think this is definitely shaping up to be TRaKable. C U on the Other Side... Edited March 23, 2017 by Bernard Kron
SpeedShift Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) The first 27T I built used a Jimmy Flintstone body. Rough, thick but usable - the usual Flintstone drill. The second time around I used a body from Altered States - IMHO the best one out there: thin, straight, smooth, almost styrene-like. Highly recommended, and available in an ever expanding array of variations (with and without louvered deck, dry lakes roadster with tonneau cover, competition roadster to drop over a digger frame, etc., etc.). Now if I could just convince him to offer an interior and windshield...The color combo sounds cool. And yes, I think this is definitely shaping up to be TRaKable. C U on the Other Side...I'm in awe of that '29 A rat you did. . Trak or not.....I could look at it for hours.I have another 27 T body in a box which I got in 1999 according to an invoice.......thinner white resin - the invoice says it was from All American Models. Not sure why I started using this thicker resin one - which I think might be a J.Flintsones - I'm not sure where it came from now. Edited March 23, 2017 by SpeedShift
Eric Macleod Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 On my 26 runabout I used the Flintstone body thickness to my advantage and just added filler to even it out. Next I added very thin evergreen straps to represent door surrounds. The stock interior is so simple- just cardboard trimmed with naugahide- that it lends itself to a simple design. You have gotten off to a great start here. I'm watching with interest.
SpeedShift Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Well now I'm not sure which resin body was the All American Models and which one was another brand (J. Flintstones ?). I didn't particularly like the track nose that came with either - so they go in the parts box. The tan nose was horribly out of dimension and didn't the body shell anyway. I've gone as far as cutting the rear wheel wells and adding a firewall and floor boards on the tan body, so I'm fairly committed to using this resin body. The pin holes I drilled for tail lights and the gas cap. I notice there is a trunk line engraved in one and not the other. That's ok..... just gives me an excuse to plan the next '27 after this one........ LOL. Edited March 23, 2017 by SpeedShift
microwheel Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Really nice work. I love the ole T-bucket hot rods. Yours is gonna be sweet.
SpeedShift Posted March 24, 2017 Author Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Do you know what caster made those bodies? I know one was made by All American Models - Lafayette IN circa 1999 - was $23 at the time. Probably OOP - I've extracted this info from a web search: ""All American Models was operated by Art Anderson. He is not doing it anymore. However I believe he did sell all the molds to other companies"nope- He did sell off the prewar car masters to R&D Unique in 2001, but they've not reissued any of them (cars like the Duesenbergs, Cords, V8 Fords). He stills own all the other mastering, but they are not going to be reissued, nor will they be sold off I think the other was a Jimmy Flintstone (NB175 1927 Ford) acquired on Ebay IIRC...no box or invoice, so I'm not sure. http://jimmyflintstonestudios.com/?product_cat=car-bodys Bernard mentioned Altered States Resin...http://www.alteredstatesmodels.com/salt_flats.htm I think this is the one he referred to: Edited March 24, 2017 by SpeedShift
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