CrazyCrank Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Hi Absmiami I discover your thread and I'm amazed by your skills, and your resilience and perseverance since 4 years 👍 However, I remain dubious about your attempt to make engine turning on the body panels. Indeed, in spite of all the commendable efforts you made, I find (but that's just me, and I hope you'll forgive my frankness) that (and this is normal considering the 1:24 scale), the aspect you obtained so far is both a bit rough if compared to the delicacy of the work produced at the time by Delage, and also out of scale. I wonder if it would not be better to try another method, to simulate this aspect, for example: - 1/ painting the background color, this very pale blue, then, once varnished and well dried - 2/ Wrap the body painted parts evenly and tightly in a very thin mesh fabric, I'm thinking of stockings for example. - 3/ And then try to airbrush through the stockings a silver-like color mixed with the blue of the base color (to get a slight and brighter difference of tone), in a very light way, hoping that the paint will go through the stockings, and mark very small dots that would simulate the center of the swirl of your "engine turning". - 4/ Then varnish again. If this may help 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 T - actually I considered your method - but decided that I wanted the rows of turned metal - although these rows are way over-scale - so I just consider it a “scale casualty”. Anyhow - Stay on board - i think you’ll like it when it comes together … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, absmiami said: T - actually I considered your method - but decided that I wanted the rows of turned metal - although these rows are way over-scale - so I just consider it a “scale casualty”. Anyhow - Stay on board - i think you’ll like it when it comes together … I don't doubt it for a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 As the rows or lines or swirls are applied - the wooden tool - made fr a tooth pick - wears down and has to be replaced - so in picture 4 - the second to top row was made with the worn tool - and the top row was applied with the new one …. You can see the difference…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmojr Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Love these vintage Grand Prix racers. Excellent work on this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 Gracias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Row after row - finally time to give the body a wash and have a look … 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 With a mock up of the insrument panel - which oddly - was not machine turned finish like the rest if this car … 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 You're as stubborn as le when you've decided something Nice job and finally good looking aspect ! It remembre me when I decided to drill all the holes of the gril of my Bugatti T50 Pocher 1/8 scale: I hadn't at this time any honeycomb mesh, so I drilled the plastic in the holes between the meshes: more than 1000 0.6 mm holes hand drilled. But the result was worth the pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Tragic that the various T50 and T57 series Bugattis remain unkitted in 24th scale - that’s gotta change some day … I absolutely love the Atalante … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Lots of work but I think it paid off. Coming along nicely ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Gracias Cman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, absmiami said: Tragic that the various T50 and T57 series Bugattis remain unkitted in 24th scale - that’s gotta change some day … I absolutely love the Atalante … Sorry mate ! the T50 Bugatti is available as a Heller Kit in 1:24. I've one of them in my stash The kit is always continued by the brand, and you can find it either new (in France: Here), either second-hand (for instance on Ebay USA) Obviously the kit is sold at an insane price in US : almost $90 when it's 21 € in Europe) It would be cheaper to buy it in Europe and pay the shipping fees 😉 Edited September 23, 2022 by CrazyCrank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Lister confusion meant the Costin designed Lister - and not the Sayer designed Lister - which is a fiction … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Crazy - you are right of course - Heller does kit the T50 - but dosn’t that just make you want the others? Have you built your T50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 The Heller T50 was a large car with a 5 litre engine - larger than the DOHCs in the T57 series - but Ive always suspected that the kit engine was too tall or over-scale …. thierry - what do you think ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCrank Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, absmiami said: Crazy - you are right of course - Heller does kit the T50 - but dosn’t that just make you want the others? Have you built your T50? 2 hours ago, absmiami said: The Heller T50 was a large car with a 5 litre engine - larger than the DOHCs in the T57 series - but Ive always suspected that the kit engine was too tall or over-scale …. thierry - what do you think ? I built it as a teenager, but lost it during my successive movings. I don' t remember to have seen such an issue, and have not yet measured the dimensions of the one which is in my stash. Asap, I'll do that on my kit and compare with the Pocher 1/8 size. I can see that your engine block is about1.4 inches so 3.55 cm. I just measured the length of the same part on my T50 Pocher 1:8, and I found about 10 cm, so 3.33 inches. I looks rather correct, don't you think so ? Obviously, this does not mean that the block is the right height, just that it is the same length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 The Pocher engines are not- in my opinion - reliably scale accurate - the anwer - is to measure these things ourselves - which until recently - has been difficult to do - my I phone has a photo measurment app - its either cheap or free - cant recall - now - when i come across something I’m really interested in - Like the Scarab grand prix engine on display at Rev’s in Naples - I take some photos with some measurements …. Do you have this app ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Scarab GP? Did someone say Scarab GP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 And if you draw up an offy engine with 20.5 inch cam covers and curved fuel injector horns you’ve got the engine … just sayin… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 By the way - the cyl head seems to be designed like the Porsche cyl heads … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 How many more engine pix do you need ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Ok. Ok. We’ll set aside that spicey Scarab interlude - for now - the engine bonnett needs the same finishing as the body - lots of rivets- made from .020 phosphor bronze rod - and then the engine turned finish … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Karson Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 This entire thread has drawn a hat full of attention and rightly so! The level of detail and the skill of execution has me in awe!! -KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/22/2022 at 6:52 PM, absmiami said: Tragic that the various T50 and T57 series Bugattis remain unkitted in 24th scale - that’s gotta change some day … I absolutely love the Atalante … Bburago has kit versions of their diecasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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