Lindberg 1929 T Rod Background Info

[regular guy]

 

http://www.autoworldstore.com/product_p/lnd72179.htm

It's a 'track roadster'.

See Tex Smith book  'Tex Smith's Roaring Roadster:A Track Roadster History'

This kit has been puzzling me for years.

There wasn't a '29 Model T.

I didn't really know there was a '27 T look a like 1929 body.

Before seeing the AMT 29 Ford kit that came out recently I thought all '29 Ford two doors had roll top trunk.

The '29 roadster pickup. body is what it could be.

Could be a '27 or earlier body on '29 rails

Track roadsters could be 'mixed and matched' as it just needed to get around the track.

The dirt and racing suit and helmet on the cover point towards Track Roadster.

Track roadster is sort of a nebulous concept.

Could be just about made of anything except because there were so many in junkyards they were mostly Model T's and Model A's.

There successor was the full roll cage coupes.

Hot rodders are a practical bunch and roll cage cars were safer.

Happy model building and racing!

Edited January 31, 2018 by regular guy

[Art Anderson]

For starters, there WERE NO Model T Fords produced in 1929!  The last Model T off the production line here in the US was in early June, 1927.

[regular guy]

Okay.Fixed that.Thanks.

[Dirty Dave]

Looks like it was based on the "tall cowl" '23-'25 T body to me, though the box art has a flatter body line around the rear edge, where a T kicks up around the rear seat bolster a bit. Also, that's definitely the style of a later T radiator.

[regular guy]

Let's look at it from a building perspective.

I have seen them with the body 'moved back' in two versions.

With the oval gas tank and without.

Without the tank the body is right up against the rear leaf spring 'hump' on frame.

The tips on building these are long lost if they were ever written down at all.

BTW Here are the cars that succeeded these track roadsters.

http://www.dirttrackracecars.com/

Page down to 'AMT/RC2 Model Car Kits'. 

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by regular guy

[Greg Myers]

So what's the point here ?

Seems to be a lot of confusion about many things all over the place.

 

[regular guy]

It's background information on the Lindberg  '29  T Rod kit.

Body shell really doesn't look like a '29 Roadster Pickup body without the bed. Like Ala Kart.

Looks like a T body set on A frame rails with a V8 engine put in.

Then the body shoved all the way back to rear spring arch in frame. Gas tank is probably part of the cowl.

Maybe that is what Lindberg meant. A T Rod made from '29 chassis.

Name of the kit is '29 T. In '29 they were Model A's not T's.

All makes sense to me.

Edited February 1, 2018 by regular guy

[regular guy]

This is what the Ala Kart is made from. A Model A Roadster pickup.

https://www.google.com/search?q=model+a+roadster+pickup&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj36cfHqIXZAhVN3mMKHbkvDDwQsAQIJg&biw=1366&bih=611

For the Lindberg kit to be a '29 Ford this is the closest '29 body.

Lindberg boxtop picture looks like a T body.

See the rise between firewall and windshield? That's a T body.

Also the back lip behind the seat is high. Model A lip just goes straight around the back.

A model A cowl is flatter and straighter.

[Ace-Garageguy]

3 hours ago, Greg Myers said:

So what's the point here ?

Seems to be a lot of confusion about many things all over the place.

Lotta that from some sources. 

Most modelers of vintage tin have known that the labeling of the kit in question is gibberish.

And doesn't this thread really belong in the "review" section anyway?

[Jon Haigwood]

Wondering what the "T" realy stands for ?

 

[Ace-Garageguy]

39 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said:

Wondering what the "T" realy stands for ?

 

                                                  

[regular guy]

 

Here are some more interesting names on Lindberg kits in attached screen shot.

'Dustbuster' I own the 1/24 version of that model. Now I see the stripped down version with rollbar is supposed to be a track roadster.

'Scrambler' That name sure caught on!

'Hot Hermit' Maybe it meant something back then.Mid engine roadsters didn't catch on.

'Road Runner' Guess Chrysler liked that name too.

BTW Two of these kits are reissued now in a two pack.

 

[Dirty Dave]

At different times, these were released under several different names. My favorite name for the mid-engined T was, "Drag Queen". Pretty sure the '34-ish "Dust Buster" is a street/drag car, and not a track (roundy-round) roadster. Headlights, OHV engine and supercharger are dead giveaways.

The original subject "29 T" has an obvious cylindrical T-tank on the rear crossmember in the box art. Is it not in the actual kit, or what are you getting at with the whole cowl tank thing? There isn't room for a cowl tank in a T body.

[regular guy]

' Headlights, OHV engine and supercharger are dead giveaways. '

My release of '32 Ford 1/24 has 'Drag' version on boxtop.

No headlights no radiator.

So you put radiator and carbs on it and it could be Track roadster.

Track roadsters had swapped in OHV as you say V8's.

' whole cowl tank thing? ' Missed tank. BUT!

Have seen showcars with body pushed all the way back and no tank.

See Ed Roth's Tweedy Bird here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ed+roth+tweedy+bird&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis54m12YbZAhUN7qwKHdHuAggQsAQIJg&biw=1366&bih=611

[Art Anderson]

2 hours ago, regular guy said:

' Headlights, OHV engine and supercharger are dead giveaways. '

My release of '32 Ford 1/24 has 'Drag' version on boxtop.

No headlights no radiator.

So you put radiator and carbs on it and it could be Track roadster.

Track roadsters had swapped in OHV as you say V8's.

' whole cowl tank thing? ' Missed tank. BUT!

Have seen showcars with body pushed all the way back and no tank.

See Ed Roth's Tweedy Bird here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ed+roth+tweedy+bird&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis54m12YbZAhUN7qwKHdHuAggQsAQIJg&biw=1366&bih=611

Most all T-Bucket street rods use a shortened frame if no turtle deck, rather than merely "shove the body back" on the frame.

[unclescott58]

2 hours ago, Dirty Dave said:

The original subject "29 T" has an obvious cylindrical T-tank on the rear crossmember in the box art. Is it not in the actual kit, or what are you getting at with the whole cowl tank thing? There isn't room for a cowl tank in a T body.

Didn't some late, '26 and '27 Ts have gas tanks in the cowl? Like an "A" they weren't very big. From what I remember, I believe the Model As tank held at best about 10 gallons. I don't know if any of this applies to the Lindberg '29 T or not? I've never owned one.  

[Jon Haigwood]

13 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

                                                  

Not the "T" I was thinking of , but it will work 

[Ace-Garageguy]

5 hours ago, unclescott58 said:

Didn't some late, '26 and '27 Ts have gas tanks in the cowl? ...

[dodgefever]

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.

[Ace-Garageguy]

9 hours ago, regular guy said:

...See Ed Roth's Tweedy Bird here...

It's Tweedy PIE.

[Ace-Garageguy]

19 minutes ago, dodgefever said:

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.

Yeah, me too.

[Erik Smith]

Read as a poem, it all makes sense.

[regular guy]

There's a couple in this link with no tank behind the bucket body.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&biw=1366&bih=611&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=36J0WuvoH4XWjwOR87O4Dg&q=bucket+t+show+cars&oq=bucket+t+show+cars&gs_l=psy-ab.3...863773.866831.0.867898.9.9.0.0.0.0.279.1147.4j4j1.9.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.530...0j0i7i30k1j0i7i5i30k1j0i8i7i30k1.0.CDj60kTE9zs#imgrc=_

Then there are some with the body just as far back but they have a tank hung off the back somehow.

[Ace-Garageguy]

5 minutes ago, regular guy said:

...Then there are some with the body just as far back but they have a tank hung off the back somehow.

"Cantilever Levitation"

[mike 51]

Yet another chapter in the ongoing series of posts with largely meaningless/incorrect  statements . 

a "regular guy" ?    sure doesn't seem like one......why even respond to him?  

Edited February 2, 2018 by mike 51